Author: martin fierz
Date: 21:16:11 08/27/02
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>I saw the nemesis website and from the website , it looks like it may be top >tier. But I think the price is too high. I bet you he would 10x more by >dropping his price to <$60 -- a alot us computer chess freaks, are really >hardware freaks in disguise ..and if we think we ocould get perhaps the best or >second best program in the world for our $2000 souped up PC for less <$60 even >if checkes is not our primary interest, we would probably bite. But $119 - nope >price is too high. > >Or course my assumption may be wrong, but if he sells a little more than 2x, >he's at break even on the lower price. If he sells 3x he's ahead of the game. >Ask Christophe Theron or Richard Lang about how much they are making from Palm >Chess < $30. From the serial numbers that used to be on Chess Genuis - I would >guess Lang sold 2000 - 5000 (tops) units of his chess program. I also bet that >he already sold more Palm Chess units for Genius than any individual Genius >version. Why do you think Christopre is smiling so much about the new palms. he >knows that he will probbly have >75% (maybe even 90%) repeat business for those >customer that upgrade to the new ARM palm. Why buy a $300-$500 and NOT upgrade >to the software designed for that processor that will run at least 10x and mabe >20x faster. Heck even the Tiger for the Motorola processor will run 3x faster >on an ARM palm. > >Price resistance is much less when under $60 than @ $120. Please tell your >friend. hi mike, i'm not sure what the best marketing strategy for checkers programs would be. to begin with, there are practically no serious checkers players. i think the ACF (american checkers federation) has something like 400 members. the swiss chess federation alone has about 10'000! for all non-serious checkers players, the features a professional program has, like loading/saving/searching games, playing *really* good checkers, and having a large opening book you can learn something from, are just secondary. there is a lot of good freeware (including my program) which probably hurts nemesis' sales, because only those who are really into checkers will get that program. i'm sure even my free program would make mincemeat of the human world champion. after having gone through "everything" (GUI development, checkers engine, opening book building, endgame database generation & efficient access), i can understand that murray is asking for more than 100$ - he spent even more time on his program than i did on mine, and, if you think about it, 119$ for a program with more and better checkers/book knowledge than anything else is not really that much. i paid a few 100$ for chessbase 8 + fritz 7, and i'd gladly do it again. but that's because i'm a serious chess player, and as i say, there are too little serious checkers players to make this thing worthwhile. aloha martin PS i will try to sell a palm version of my program though :-)
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