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Subject: Re: List lost last...

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 01:43:44 08/29/02

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On August 29, 2002 at 04:01:58, Bernhard Bauer wrote:

>On August 28, 2002 at 08:05:34, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On August 28, 2002 at 01:33:04, Bernhard Bauer wrote:
>>
>>>On August 27, 2002 at 14:22:04, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>>>
>>>>Yes, of course, List 4.61 lost vs LG2000v3.7, please also refer to the game
>>>>notation.
>>>>Kurt
>>>
>>>Where is Crafty in this tournament?
>>>Why do you use ponder=off? I can see you have 3 machines.
>>>Have a nice day
>>>Bernhard
>>
>>1)Crafty does not have to play in every tournament.
>
>Of course not but Crafty still belongs to the strongest free available engines.
>So I miss Crafty in this tournament.

Testing programs takes time and the tester prefered to test new engines and not
crafty.

The only exception is Junior5 because he wanted to see comparison between the
new engines and the old commercial programs.

>
>>2)List does not know to ponder so testing with ponder off can give better
>>estimate for the potential of list.
>
>I don't by this. If List can not ponder List may have a problem. Anyway you
>shouldn't cripple the other programs.

You can decide about different rules in your tournament.

playing without ponder and with book give better estimate of the ability of the
engine to analyze.

I agree that it does not give exact estimate because of problems that Jos
mentioned like better time management but I also do not like
test suites to get an estimate for the ability of the engine to analyze because
I do not think that the test suites give the right picture because there are a
lot of positions when we do not know the right move and they are not in test
suites.

Uri



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