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Subject: Re: List lost last...

Author: Bernhard Bauer

Date: 03:02:57 08/29/02

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On August 29, 2002 at 04:43:44, Uri Blass wrote:

>On August 29, 2002 at 04:01:58, Bernhard Bauer wrote:
>
>>On August 28, 2002 at 08:05:34, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On August 28, 2002 at 01:33:04, Bernhard Bauer wrote:
>>>
>>>>On August 27, 2002 at 14:22:04, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Yes, of course, List 4.61 lost vs LG2000v3.7, please also refer to the game
>>>>>notation.
>>>>>Kurt
>>>>
>>>>Where is Crafty in this tournament?
>>>>Why do you use ponder=off? I can see you have 3 machines.
>>>>Have a nice day
>>>>Bernhard
>>>
>>>1)Crafty does not have to play in every tournament.
>>
>>Of course not but Crafty still belongs to the strongest free available engines.
>>So I miss Crafty in this tournament.
>
>Testing programs takes time and the tester prefered to test new engines and not
>crafty.
>
>The only exception is Junior5 because he wanted to see comparison between the
>new engines and the old commercial programs.
>
>>
>>>2)List does not know to ponder so testing with ponder off can give better
>>>estimate for the potential of list.
>>
>>I don't by this. If List can not ponder List may have a problem. Anyway you
>>shouldn't cripple the other programs.
>
>You can decide about different rules in your tournament.
>
>playing without ponder and with book give better estimate of the ability of the
>engine to analyze.
>
>I agree that it does not give exact estimate because of problems that Jos
>mentioned like better time management but I also do not like
>test suites to get an estimate for the ability of the engine to analyze because
>I do not think that the test suites give the right picture because there are a
>lot of positions when we do not know the right move and they are not in test
>suites.
>
>Uri

So what does it say, what is the use of this tournament?
Bernhard



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