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Subject: Re: Branching factor, etc

Author: Omid David

Date: 15:10:41 08/30/02

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On August 30, 2002 at 17:24:34, Andreas Herrmann wrote:

>On August 30, 2002 at 14:33:08, Omid David wrote:
>
>>On August 30, 2002 at 14:27:53, Andreas Herrmann wrote:
>>
>>>On August 30, 2002 at 09:56:21, Omid David wrote:
>>>
>>>>On August 29, 2002 at 23:03:43, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On August 29, 2002 at 22:50:53, Brian Richardson wrote:
>>>>>[snip]
>>>>>>Is move sorting turned off in Yace, GLC and Gnu for the depth = 6 searchs?
>>>>>
>>>>>Pretty irrelevant since all of them show a branching factor between 2 and 3 for
>>>>>the opening position.
>>>>>
>>>>>The program described by the OP had a branching factor of 6-8, IIRC.
>>>>>
>>>>>IOW, something is clearly amiss.
>>>>>
>>>>>I wonder how often the OP finds the requested position in the hash table.
>>>>>Usually, hash table alone would be enough to prevent a branch factor that
>>>>>terrible.
>>>>
>>>>How do you calculate branching factor here?
>>>
>>>A branching factor of 3 means that each node has in the average 3 child nodes
>>>(This is the description i have found on an internet page). So the formula must
>>>be:
>>>
>>>bf = ( Nodes [ply n] - nodes [ply n-1] ) / nodes [ply n-1]
>>>
>>>Excample:
>>>Whole nodes until ply 5 = 4000 and whole nodes until ply 6 = 20000.
>>>Then you got a branching factor of
>>>bf [ply 6] = ( 20000 - 4000 ) / 4000 = 4.0
>>>
>>>have a nice day
>>>Andreas
>>
>>I know this :-)
>>
>>But there is the odd/even issue, so the b-factor can change drastically while
>>moving from an odd ply to an even ply, and vice versa.
>
>I think the best is to calculate an average branching factor from all plys.
>
>bf[avg] = ( bf[2] + bf[3] + bf[4] ... + bf[n] ) / (n - 1)
>
>Andreas

Yes, that seems to be the fair choice. Although I think the deeper plies tend to
get more improtant. But then, what should be the last ply, odd or even? (e.g.
search to 10 plies or 11?)



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