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Subject: Re: developing Junior (and other pro programs)

Author: Dave Gomboc

Date: 00:26:01 08/31/02

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>This is exactly the case for Junior and Fritz and they simply do not care about
>small improvement that they can get.

That, I don't believe.

>They know that there are positions when the program cannot see simple tactics
>but they do not care to fix it.
>
>There are positions when Junior cannot see simple tactics and Amir ban knows
>about it but he did not fix it at least not in Junior7(some years after he got
>the information).

That's probably because it would hurt the program overall.  I'm sure he does
what he thinks is best for overall program strength.

>There are positions when Fritz cannot see simple mate because of null move
>pruning.

I'm sure Frans Morsch is well aware of that too.

>I also know that not seeing simple tactic may be relevant in rare cases
>for games but they do not fix it by having some verification search against
>zunzwangs and it is possible to have verficiation search(yace does it).
>
>I am sure that it is possible to have verification search in a productive way
>and to fix the problem of Junior in a productive way and I do not believe that
>the best that programs can do is to be blind in some situations.
>
>Uri
Well, if you investigate it you may find that you are right.  But you may also
find that you are wrong. :-)

Dave



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