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Subject: Re: question to Nimzo 8 users

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 17:54:22 08/31/02

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On August 30, 2002 at 16:13:12, Peter Ackermann wrote:

>On August 29, 2002 at 12:26:18, Mike S. wrote:
>
>>I've read Nimzo 8 uses the "NCD" tablebases (AFAIK all 4-piece and a few 5-piece
>>tables) which it puts into RAM completely and accesses it - unlike other progs
>>using the nalimovs - in quiescence search, too.
>
>The problem ist that these NCD-tablebases are not included on the Nimzo-8-CD
>(except R+P/R) but on the Nimzo7.32-CD. To use alle 4-men-NCD needs about 11 MB
>of RAM but the R+P/R needs a lot of free RAM...
>
>>Did you notice something special in Nimzo 8's endgame play related to that? Do
>>you have examples where you thought, this may have been an effect of theses NCD
>>tables?
>
>I think that Alexander Kure published an example shortly after the release of
>Nimzo8 but I cant remember.
>
>
>>(I have ordered Nimzo 8 and would like to read some impressions, until it
>>arrives :o))
>
>Nimzo8 is considered one of the weakest professional engines and is often
>considered as a test-engine to find out if a strong amateur is already rising to
>the strenght of professionals.

When it was released it topped SSDF of course and it won a bunch of
tournaments.

Saying it is 'considered one of the weakest professional engines'
in 2002 is of course not real true, but definitely showing how much
programs sincethen have progressed.

Using nimzo8 in blitz at the internet would still against humans kick butt
by the way.

>>
>>In addition to that, I'd also appreciate general impressions of Nimzo 8. I have
>>tested a very similar program of Ch.Donninger, "Schach dem Schweinehund", which
>>IMO is tactically equal to Fritz 7 and Fritz 7 NoMMX. IOW, a top speed
>>combinator.
>
>Nimzo8 is indeed playing very strong on combinations but the problem seems to be
>that Nimzo8 often looses due to one "mistake". An engine which would deserve the
>name "AnMon" (angel and demon...) for its style but unfortunely this name is
>already occupied...
>>
>>Thanks,
>>M.Scheidl
>
>Greetings to Vienna!
>
>Peter



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