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Subject: Re: Deep Sjeng testers wanted

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 20:52:42 08/31/02

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On August 31, 2002 at 20:59:37, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On August 31, 2002 at 06:17:24, Vincent Lejeune wrote:
>
>>On August 30, 2002 at 23:41:03, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On August 30, 2002 at 22:52:24, Brandon wrote:
>>>
>>>>There are no official quad 2.2 Ghz + machines out there. People advertise
>>>>Dual/Quad Xeon 2.2 Ghz because of the hyperthreading.. but no machine with 4
>>>>actual cpus at 2.2 Ghz.... yet...
>>>>
>>>> - Brandon
>>>
>>>There is definitely _one_ out there.  I personally saw the boot output from
>>>linux and it reported 8 cpus at 2.2ghz each, which is what a 4-cpu machine
>>>with hyper-threading looks like under linux.
>>>
>>>It might well be a prototype, because as you mention, I couldn't find any
>>>official ads anywhere for such a box...
>>
>>after searching with altavista
>>http://www.altavista.com/sites/search/web?pg=aq&avkw=tgz&aqmode=s&aqa=chipset+%22Quad+Xeon%22+pentium+4&aqp=&aqn=&aqb=&aqs=&kl=XX&dt=tmperiod&d2=3&d0=&d1=&rc=rgn&sgr=all&swd=&lh=&sc=on&nbq=10&stq=10
>>
>>and searching on, the intel site , i can conclude that configuration is strange
>>and unsupported officially by intel processor :
>>
>>http://www.intel.com/products/server/processors/server/xeon/index.htm?iid=search+XeonDP
>>http://www.intel.com/products/server/processors/server/xeon_mp/index.htm?iid=search+XeonMP
>>
>>The faster pentium 4 how support 4 way (MP) run at 1.60 Ghz and "with 1 MB of
>>Level 3 cache is priced at $3,692 in 1,000-unit quantities"
>
>this is very old and outdated propaganda.

The quad 2.2 is not "propaganda"...

Check this out:

> *** All four CPUs show up identically; didn't want to use too much bandwidth. ***
> [root@delta root]# cat /proc/cpuinfo
> processor       : 0
> vendor_id       : GenuineIntel
> cpu family      : 15
> model           : 2
> model name      : Intel(R) XEON(TM) CPU 2.20GHz
> stepping        : 4
> cpu MHz         : 2199.985
> cache size      : 512 KB
> fdiv_bug        : no
> hlt_bug         : no
> f00f_bug        : no
> coma_bug        : no
> fpu             : yes
> fpu_exception   : yes
> cpuid level     : 2
> wp              : yes
> flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm
> bogomips        : 4390.91

He sent me the raw boot output and it shows up as "eight" cpus because of
the enabled hyper-threading.  And it _definitely_ has 4 xeon cpus.  I just
can't find out where he got the thing.  It might be at Intel for all I
know, in a back room.




> i can show you the
>AMD press releases of a year or 5 ago announcing a 8 processor K7.
>I am pretty sure they have tried to build a machine with 8 cpu k7s
>in order to find out it didn't work and was hard to get to work too,
>just like they have actually built quad and probably also 8 cpu P4s which
>simply never ran stable.
>
>In short there is always a dude who tries it in order to find out it
>doesn't work.
>
>Best regards,
>Vincent



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