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Subject: Re: question to Nimzo 8 users

Author: Chessfun

Date: 20:58:38 08/31/02

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On August 31, 2002 at 20:54:22, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On August 30, 2002 at 16:13:12, Peter Ackermann wrote:
>
>>On August 29, 2002 at 12:26:18, Mike S. wrote:
>>
>>>I've read Nimzo 8 uses the "NCD" tablebases (AFAIK all 4-piece and a few 5-piece
>>>tables) which it puts into RAM completely and accesses it - unlike other progs
>>>using the nalimovs - in quiescence search, too.
>>
>>The problem ist that these NCD-tablebases are not included on the Nimzo-8-CD
>>(except R+P/R) but on the Nimzo7.32-CD. To use alle 4-men-NCD needs about 11 MB
>>of RAM but the R+P/R needs a lot of free RAM...
>>
>>>Did you notice something special in Nimzo 8's endgame play related to that? Do
>>>you have examples where you thought, this may have been an effect of theses NCD
>>>tables?
>>
>>I think that Alexander Kure published an example shortly after the release of
>>Nimzo8 but I cant remember.
>>
>>
>>>(I have ordered Nimzo 8 and would like to read some impressions, until it
>>>arrives :o))
>>
>>Nimzo8 is considered one of the weakest professional engines and is often
>>considered as a test-engine to find out if a strong amateur is already rising to
>>the strenght of professionals.
>
>When it was released it topped SSDF of course and it won a bunch of
>tournaments.


Nimzo 8....never topped the SSDF. I believe Nimzo 732 may have done at some
point.


>Saying it is 'considered one of the weakest professional engines'
>in 2002 is of course not real true, but definitely showing how much
>programs sincethen have progressed.


Why isn't it true? most data rating lists show it is true.


>Using nimzo8 in blitz at the internet would still against humans kick butt
>by the way.


That's if it didn't lose on time first.

Do you own a copy of Nimzo 8?.....thought not.

Sarah.



>>>
>>>In addition to that, I'd also appreciate general impressions of Nimzo 8. I have
>>>tested a very similar program of Ch.Donninger, "Schach dem Schweinehund", which
>>>IMO is tactically equal to Fritz 7 and Fritz 7 NoMMX. IOW, a top speed
>>>combinator.
>>
>>Nimzo8 is indeed playing very strong on combinations but the problem seems to be
>>that Nimzo8 often looses due to one "mistake". An engine which would deserve the
>>name "AnMon" (angel and demon...) for its style but unfortunely this name is
>>already occupied...
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>M.Scheidl
>>
>>Greetings to Vienna!
>>
>>Peter



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