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Subject: Re: question to Nimzo 8 users

Author: Mike S.

Date: 01:13:52 09/01/02

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On August 31, 2002 at 23:58:38, Chessfun wrote:

>On August 31, 2002 at 20:54:22, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>(...)
>>When it was released it topped SSDF of course and it won a bunch of
>>tournaments.

>Nimzo 8....never topped the SSDF. I believe Nimzo 732 may have done at some
>point.

Or maybe Nimzo98, after a very good Aegon performance (with some luck). I think
it wasn't on first place at SSDF AFAIK, but at least 2nd or 3rd for some time.
But longer ago.

>Why isn't it true? most data rating lists show it is true.

It must be a positional weakness, or a specific gameplay (?) weakness. I'm
considering mostly using N8 as an analysis engine for tactical situations, u
addition to Fritz 7 or Fritz 7 NoMMX, then and when. In my test suites,
"Schweinehund" (~Nimzo 7.32) was/is always on top, or among the best two.

I think too, that against humans it probably wouldn't score much different (or
even better) than i.e. Fritz or whatever other top program. Of course it depends
on the opponents strength... but I think, below 2400 there wouldn't be much
chance that Nimzo looses on time. Humans will most often be completely lost much
earlier.

Schach dem Schweinehund, which has a very similar Nimzo engine, has competed
twice against humans in large blitz competitions in Germany btw. IIRC it scored
49-1 and 50-0. I don't know the opponent's strengths, but at least club league
players AFAIK. The reports were at the german www.chessbase.de site longer ago.

Regards,
Mike Scheidl



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