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Subject: Re: question to Nimzo 8 users

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 06:22:30 09/01/02

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On September 01, 2002 at 04:13:52, Mike S. wrote:

nimzo98 topped SSDF for pretty long period.

>On August 31, 2002 at 23:58:38, Chessfun wrote:
>
>>On August 31, 2002 at 20:54:22, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>(...)
>>>When it was released it topped SSDF of course and it won a bunch of
>>>tournaments.
>
>>Nimzo 8....never topped the SSDF. I believe Nimzo 732 may have done at some
>>point.
>
>Or maybe Nimzo98, after a very good Aegon performance (with some luck). I think
>it wasn't on first place at SSDF AFAIK, but at least 2nd or 3rd for some time.
>But longer ago.
>
>>Why isn't it true? most data rating lists show it is true.
>
>It must be a positional weakness, or a specific gameplay (?) weakness. I'm
>considering mostly using N8 as an analysis engine for tactical situations, u
>addition to Fritz 7 or Fritz 7 NoMMX, then and when. In my test suites,
>"Schweinehund" (~Nimzo 7.32) was/is always on top, or among the best two.
>
>I think too, that against humans it probably wouldn't score much different (or
>even better) than i.e. Fritz or whatever other top program. Of course it depends
>on the opponents strength... but I think, below 2400 there wouldn't be much
>chance that Nimzo looses on time. Humans will most often be completely lost much
>earlier.
>
>Schach dem Schweinehund, which has a very similar Nimzo engine, has competed
>twice against humans in large blitz competitions in Germany btw. IIRC it scored
>49-1 and 50-0. I don't know the opponent's strengths, but at least club league
>players AFAIK. The reports were at the german www.chessbase.de site longer ago.
>
>Regards,
>Mike Scheidl



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