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Subject: Re: question to Nimzo 8 users

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 06:24:12 09/01/02

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On August 31, 2002 at 23:58:38, Chessfun wrote:

yes i was confused with nimzo98. nimzo98 topped SSDF and won
tournament after tournament. all the nimzo's of that period play
the same chess IMHO. Same engine.

nimzo98,nimzo99,nimzo8,nimzo7.32 etc.

>On August 31, 2002 at 20:54:22, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>
>>On August 30, 2002 at 16:13:12, Peter Ackermann wrote:
>>
>>>On August 29, 2002 at 12:26:18, Mike S. wrote:
>>>
>>>>I've read Nimzo 8 uses the "NCD" tablebases (AFAIK all 4-piece and a few 5-piece
>>>>tables) which it puts into RAM completely and accesses it - unlike other progs
>>>>using the nalimovs - in quiescence search, too.
>>>
>>>The problem ist that these NCD-tablebases are not included on the Nimzo-8-CD
>>>(except R+P/R) but on the Nimzo7.32-CD. To use alle 4-men-NCD needs about 11 MB
>>>of RAM but the R+P/R needs a lot of free RAM...
>>>
>>>>Did you notice something special in Nimzo 8's endgame play related to that? Do
>>>>you have examples where you thought, this may have been an effect of theses NCD
>>>>tables?
>>>
>>>I think that Alexander Kure published an example shortly after the release of
>>>Nimzo8 but I cant remember.
>>>
>>>
>>>>(I have ordered Nimzo 8 and would like to read some impressions, until it
>>>>arrives :o))
>>>
>>>Nimzo8 is considered one of the weakest professional engines and is often
>>>considered as a test-engine to find out if a strong amateur is already rising to
>>>the strenght of professionals.
>>
>>When it was released it topped SSDF of course and it won a bunch of
>>tournaments.
>
>
>Nimzo 8....never topped the SSDF. I believe Nimzo 732 may have done at some
>point.
>
>
>>Saying it is 'considered one of the weakest professional engines'
>>in 2002 is of course not real true, but definitely showing how much
>>programs sincethen have progressed.
>
>
>Why isn't it true? most data rating lists show it is true.
>
>
>>Using nimzo8 in blitz at the internet would still against humans kick butt
>>by the way.
>
>
>That's if it didn't lose on time first.
>
>Do you own a copy of Nimzo 8?.....thought not.
>
>Sarah.
>
>
>
>>>>
>>>>In addition to that, I'd also appreciate general impressions of Nimzo 8. I have
>>>>tested a very similar program of Ch.Donninger, "Schach dem Schweinehund", which
>>>>IMO is tactically equal to Fritz 7 and Fritz 7 NoMMX. IOW, a top speed
>>>>combinator.
>>>
>>>Nimzo8 is indeed playing very strong on combinations but the problem seems to be
>>>that Nimzo8 often looses due to one "mistake". An engine which would deserve the
>>>name "AnMon" (angel and demon...) for its style but unfortunely this name is
>>>already occupied...
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>M.Scheidl
>>>
>>>Greetings to Vienna!
>>>
>>>Peter



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