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Subject: Re: Crafty PVS question

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 10:05:46 09/01/02

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On September 01, 2002 at 07:41:31, José Carlos wrote:

>On September 01, 2002 at 06:19:33, Alvaro Jose Povoa Cardoso wrote:
>
>>>>Difference is that Crafty used alpha instead of value when it re-searches.
>>>>Is there any reason to use alpha instead of value?
>>>>Using value which is greater than alpha seems to cause more cutoffs than using
>>>>alpha.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>>I do this only because it is possible to fail low on the re-search, and now you
>>>have the question of whether this fail-high/fail-low means anything.  I choose
>>>to go to the full window so that if it fails low, I know it is not good and I
>>>can ignore the fail high.  This is a null-move / hashing artifact that simply
>>>happens to anyone doing PVS, null-move and hashing, all together...
>>
>>
>>Just curious, if we removed null-move, would that artifact still happen?
>>In other words, would PVS+hashing cause that?
>>
>>Regards,
>>Alvaro Cardoso
>
>  Less often, but it'll happen. I had it in older versions of Averno (0.32 and
>prior) which didn't use null-move.
>
>  José C.


Same here.  Happened in early versions of Cray Blitz with no null-move, and
more frequently in later versions with null-move and R=1.



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