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Subject: Re: Deep Sjeng testers wanted

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 10:22:11 09/01/02

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On September 01, 2002 at 09:14:05, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On August 31, 2002 at 23:52:42, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>As i said that's just a few prototype machines where they tried to
>run 4 P4s and of course it's not stable.

It _is_ running quite well.  The guy was writing to the SMP kernel mailing
list about a boot-up APIC issue.  The machine seems to be quite impressive
in that it is clearly at least 4x faster than my quad, not factoring in the
hyper-threading that I have not yet tried to evaluate at all...



>
>>On August 31, 2002 at 20:59:37, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>
>>>On August 31, 2002 at 06:17:24, Vincent Lejeune wrote:
>>>
>>>>On August 30, 2002 at 23:41:03, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On August 30, 2002 at 22:52:24, Brandon wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>There are no official quad 2.2 Ghz + machines out there. People advertise
>>>>>>Dual/Quad Xeon 2.2 Ghz because of the hyperthreading.. but no machine with 4
>>>>>>actual cpus at 2.2 Ghz.... yet...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Brandon
>>>>>
>>>>>There is definitely _one_ out there.  I personally saw the boot output from
>>>>>linux and it reported 8 cpus at 2.2ghz each, which is what a 4-cpu machine
>>>>>with hyper-threading looks like under linux.
>>>>>
>>>>>It might well be a prototype, because as you mention, I couldn't find any
>>>>>official ads anywhere for such a box...
>>>>
>>>>after searching with altavista
>>>>http://www.altavista.com/sites/search/web?pg=aq&avkw=tgz&aqmode=s&aqa=chipset+%22Quad+Xeon%22+pentium+4&aqp=&aqn=&aqb=&aqs=&kl=XX&dt=tmperiod&d2=3&d0=&d1=&rc=rgn&sgr=all&swd=&lh=&sc=on&nbq=10&stq=10
>>>>
>>>>and searching on, the intel site , i can conclude that configuration is strange
>>>>and unsupported officially by intel processor :
>>>>
>>>>http://www.intel.com/products/server/processors/server/xeon/index.htm?iid=search+XeonDP
>>>>http://www.intel.com/products/server/processors/server/xeon_mp/index.htm?iid=search+XeonMP
>>>>
>>>>The faster pentium 4 how support 4 way (MP) run at 1.60 Ghz and "with 1 MB of
>>>>Level 3 cache is priced at $3,692 in 1,000-unit quantities"
>>>
>>>this is very old and outdated propaganda.
>>
>>The quad 2.2 is not "propaganda"...
>>
>>Check this out:
>>
>>> *** All four CPUs show up identically; didn't want to use too much bandwidth. ***
>>> [root@delta root]# cat /proc/cpuinfo
>>> processor       : 0
>>> vendor_id       : GenuineIntel
>>> cpu family      : 15
>>> model           : 2
>>> model name      : Intel(R) XEON(TM) CPU 2.20GHz
>>> stepping        : 4
>>> cpu MHz         : 2199.985
>>> cache size      : 512 KB
>>> fdiv_bug        : no
>>> hlt_bug         : no
>>> f00f_bug        : no
>>> coma_bug        : no
>>> fpu             : yes
>>> fpu_exception   : yes
>>> cpuid level     : 2
>>> wp              : yes
>>> flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm
>>> bogomips        : 4390.91
>>
>>He sent me the raw boot output and it shows up as "eight" cpus because of
>>the enabled hyper-threading.  And it _definitely_ has 4 xeon cpus.  I just
>>can't find out where he got the thing.  It might be at Intel for all I
>>know, in a back room.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> i can show you the
>>>AMD press releases of a year or 5 ago announcing a 8 processor K7.
>>>I am pretty sure they have tried to build a machine with 8 cpu k7s
>>>in order to find out it didn't work and was hard to get to work too,
>>>just like they have actually built quad and probably also 8 cpu P4s which
>>>simply never ran stable.
>>>
>>>In short there is always a dude who tries it in order to find out it
>>>doesn't work.
>>>
>>>Best regards,
>>>Vincent



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