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Subject: Re: How does the Internet Chess Club "detect" cheaters (i.e., computer use)

Author: Robert Henry Durrett

Date: 13:07:59 09/01/02

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On August 30, 2002 at 00:22:04, Joseph Merolle wrote:

>having said that yes it if true that humans including GMS will average at least
>1.63 blunders in 3.172 games

But how do you define "blunder?"  I always say that my best amateur moves would
likely be viewed as blunders in GM games.

The important statistics are not probability of blundering but probability of
making [or not making] a "non-human computer move," whatever that is.

: )

Bob


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>On August 30, 2002 at 00:18:12, Joseph Merolle wrote:
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>>Even GMS have been busted for useing speed in games on icc !!!! GMs in a won
>>position will never find the fastest win like a computer does!!!
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>>regards JAMerolle
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>>On August 29, 2002 at 18:36:39, Terry Ripple wrote:
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>>>On August 29, 2002 at 13:39:44, K. Burcham wrote:
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>>>>On August 29, 2002 at 13:24:07, Slater Wold wrote:
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>>>>>On August 29, 2002 at 12:35:39, Gerald Grimsley wrote:
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>>>>>>Hello, I see at the ICC website they say they have vigorous mechanisms in place
>>>>>>to detect cheating (meaning using computers to play one's game).  Does anybody
>>>>>>out there play at ICC and what are some of the ways they use to detect cheaters?
>>>>>>It seems to me that you would never "really" know if you were playing against a
>>>>>>computer.
>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>Gerald
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>>>>>Their program is spyware - it makes sure you're not running other programs.
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>>>>>And humans and computers don't play chess the same way.
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>>>>you must average at least 1.63 blunders in 3.172 games. if you cannot maintain
>>>>this blunder average, then you are a computer.
>>>>kburcham
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>>>Are you saying that a strong Master or Grandmaster will also adhere to this
>>>average blunder ratio?? "I don't think so!"
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>>>Regards,
>>>      Terry



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