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Subject: Re: Book vs no book

Author: Sune Fischer

Date: 01:24:21 09/02/02

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On September 01, 2002 at 19:12:01, Andrew Williams wrote:

>Hi,
>
>On Friday I got back from a business trip and saw the discussion going on about
>the effect of the opening book. Too tired to think of anything else to test, I
>started a match between postmodernist with its big book (made up of Dann
>Corbit's games collection) versus postmodernist without a book. To encourage a
>bit of randomness, I told both versions to randomly vary the time they used for
>searching the first few moves out of book. I have no position at all on the
>debate that was going on, but here is some more data anyway:
>
>I played 200 games at 5 minutes + 2 seconds increment. Both sides played with no
>pondering on the same Athlon 1200. There were no duplicates amongst the games
>(according to Scid; I haven't checked by hand).
>
>The final score from the point of view of the version with the book was:
>
>	+71 =78 -51
>
>With a final score of Withbook 110 - 90 Nobook.

As you and others have demostrated the (good) books have a positive effect on
the score, but is it because the books leaves them in a superior position, or
simply because of the time they save playing directly from book?

I'd expect you might also see a score close to 110-90 if you give one program 5
min 2 sec inc and the other only 4 min 2 sec inc. It certain is a factor to be
considered...

-S.

>Andrew
>
>PS Irrespective of the significance of the figures given here or elsewhere, I
>won't participate in any tournament where an opening book is used without
>explicit permission from its creator to use it in the tournament.

PS
No matter the effect of the book, it isn't the _engine_ playing....



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