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Subject: Re: Book vs no book

Author: José Carlos

Date: 03:25:00 09/02/02

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On September 02, 2002 at 04:24:21, Sune Fischer wrote:

>On September 01, 2002 at 19:12:01, Andrew Williams wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>On Friday I got back from a business trip and saw the discussion going on about
>>the effect of the opening book. Too tired to think of anything else to test, I
>>started a match between postmodernist with its big book (made up of Dann
>>Corbit's games collection) versus postmodernist without a book. To encourage a
>>bit of randomness, I told both versions to randomly vary the time they used for
>>searching the first few moves out of book. I have no position at all on the
>>debate that was going on, but here is some more data anyway:
>>
>>I played 200 games at 5 minutes + 2 seconds increment. Both sides played with no
>>pondering on the same Athlon 1200. There were no duplicates amongst the games
>>(according to Scid; I haven't checked by hand).
>>
>>The final score from the point of view of the version with the book was:
>>
>>	+71 =78 -51
>>
>>With a final score of Withbook 110 - 90 Nobook.
>
>As you and others have demostrated the (good) books have a positive effect on
>the score, but is it because the books leaves them in a superior position, or
>simply because of the time they save playing directly from book?
>
>I'd expect you might also see a score close to 110-90 if you give one program 5
>min 2 sec inc and the other only 4 min 2 sec inc. It certain is a factor to be
>considered...
>
>-S.
>
>>Andrew
>>
>>PS Irrespective of the significance of the figures given here or elsewhere, I
>>won't participate in any tournament where an opening book is used without
>>explicit permission from its creator to use it in the tournament.
>
>PS
>No matter the effect of the book, it isn't the _engine_ playing....

  According to _your_ definition of engine.

  José C.



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