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Subject: Re: Piece Values

Author: Bruce Moreland

Date: 16:04:51 08/16/98

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On August 16, 1998 at 16:17:51, fca wrote:

>An interesting effect of the above is assuming both sides had a bishop pair to
>start off with, the "close exchange" of B + N  v  R + P would cost
>
>10 + 9 + 1 (loss of B-pair) v 15 + 3
>
>i.e. 20 v 18
>
>i.e. 2/3 of a pawn down for the loser of B+N.  I think this is wrong, and should
>be 1/3 pawn.

Around a whole pawn, in my experience.  It is a classic mistake for a computer
to get R+P+minor positional comp for B+N.

The cases I've seen, B+N often outplays R+P+P, if it happens early enough and
the pawns aren't super-nice.

When my program loses B+N for R+anything, I expect it to lose.

> If we up R to 16 it also produces a more reasonable result v Q, as
> (ignoring 2 rooks in case there is a 2-R bonus)
>
>R + B + P  v  Q
>
>with my amendment gives
>
>16 + 10 + 3  v  29
>
>i.e.  29 v 29
>
>i.e. fits in with my OTB observation that R+B+P v Q often holds...

Early enough on, I think I will take the queen, every time.

bruce



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