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Subject: Re: What makes Kasparov Vs DJ more attractive than Kramnik match !

Author: Omid David

Date: 06:58:49 09/03/02

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On September 03, 2002 at 08:59:31, Odd Gunnar Malin wrote:

>On September 03, 2002 at 08:07:30, Omid David wrote:
>
>>On September 03, 2002 at 05:42:31, Odd Gunnar Malin wrote:
>>
>>>On September 03, 2002 at 05:16:08, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>On September 03, 2002 at 04:56:16, Odd Gunnar Malin wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>What do we have:
>>>>>
>>>>>Match 1
>>>>>Winner Braingame match - Winner CC qualify-match
>>>>>
>>>>>Match 2
>>>>>Loser Braingame match - Loser CC qualify-match
>>>>>
>>>>>Match 2 runs before match 1 as normal when competing for 3-4 places
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>If match 2 attract more attention there is only one factor: Kasparov
>>>>>All other things are too techncal.
>>>>
>>>>No
>>>>
>>>>Match 2 is between the human player with the highest rating(better than kramnik)
>>>>against the program that won the last computer championship when Fritz was one
>>>>of the participants.
>>>>
>>>>You can look at match 1 as the match of the losers.
>>>>
>>>>Uri
>>>
>>>:)
>>>
>>>I repeat:
>>>If match 2 attract more attention there is only one factor: Kasparov
>>
>>I can't argue with the fact that Kasparov is the main reason of interest for the
>>K-DJ match. But besides that, there are plenty of other reasons (as Uri
>>mentioned) for justifying why K-DJ is and has to be more important. In addition,
>>the Jerusalem match is sponsored and endorsed by FIDE and ICCA, the highest
>>chess and computer chess organizations; in the contrary, K-DF's match is a
>>"losers" match in a forgotten place, sponsored by oil-millionaires...
>>
>
>And where do FIDE get their money from :)
>I don't think many outside the CC community know what ICCA are (a club with
>4-500 members).
>
>Thats what mean anything is that Kasparov have been in the news for more than 15
>years.
>I have nothing against Kasparov, on the contrary I think he have made much more
>to make chess known than anybody else the latest ten years.
>
>Imagine a match between Hussain and Bush. Not that they are popular outside
>their own country but the have been in the news. I don't think people would look
>one time on their rating but the match would most certainly attract more
>attention.
>
>I'm really don't see any good argument either from you or Uri against my first
>note in this thread. Do you mean that rating numbers, who is the sponsore,
>Junior won the latest tournament etc. is a factor that would attract more
>people?
>
>Here is a factor that I think mean just as much as rating etc.:
>Association with the engines name.
>Fritz  - German precision
>Junior - Brasillian brilliance
>
>Another question is what are the meaning of more attention (attractive)
>
>More viewers on the WEB or more mentioning in the press.
>
>I'm almost sure the first goes to the Kramnik-Fritz match if Braingame follow up
>their superb web-broadcast from the K-K match.
>
>In the news-paper Kasparov's name would be easiest to sell.
>
>It is a little pity that none of these programes take advantage that they are in
>the news. Eg. start distribute the programs through normal game-shops so that
>the grandparent who want to buy a present for his grandchild could find it when
>he still remember the name from the paper.

In marketing, they (Fritz, Junior, Shredder, etc) have srill a lot more to learn
from Chessmaster!

>
>Odd Gunnar



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