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Subject: Re: Nr. 008 - strong!

Author: Torstein Hall

Date: 10:22:52 09/03/02

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On September 03, 2002 at 12:05:23, Eduard Nemeth wrote:

>On September 03, 2002 at 11:23:35, John Merlino wrote:
>
>>On September 03, 2002 at 10:42:31, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>>
>>>[D]2b3k1/1p1p1p1p/1P1P1P1P/8/8/8/6P1/K4B2 w - - 0 1
>>>
>>>when will be black mates (in how many moves) ?
>>>
>>>To this position (sorry, only german):
>>>
>>>das Diagramm zeigt eine Stellung die ich so garnicht gewollt habe, ehrlich!
>>>Derzeit sind meine Finger + Maus so sehr auf diese Nullzugstellungen fixiert
>>>dass ich sie schon "in Trance" (also unbewusst) erstelle. Ich wollte hier ein
>>>Programm nach seiner Suchtiefe überprüfen, als ich (es machte Klick!) vergass,
>>>die 4 restlichern schwarzen Bauern aufs Brett zu setzen. Es entsand also
>>>eine unvollstänige Stellung. Da mir die 8 weissen Bauern zuviel waren , klickte
>>>ich 3 weitere weg und nun steht plötzlich eine Komposition da, bei der ich
>>>seltsamerweise bis 3' noch von keinem Programm eine Mattansage bekam.
>>>In wieviel Zügen wird schwarz Matt (mein Rechner ist echt zunlangsam dafür) ?
>>>
>>>Have fun,
>>>Eduard
>>>
>>>Ach ja, hier einige Programme schenll getestet:
>>>
>>>2b3k1/1p1p1p1p/1P1P1P1P/8/8/8/6P1/K4B2 w - - 0 1
>>>
>>>Analysis by Fritz 7:
>>>1.g4!
>>>+- (15.09) Tiefe: 35/52 00:06:59 186864kN, tb=1385
>>>1.g4!
>>>+- (15.38) Tiefe: 35/52 00:07:55 211012kN, tb=1897
>>>1.g4!
>>>+- (15.94) Tiefe: 35/52 00:07:56 211489kN, tb=2089
>>>
>>>(Nemeth, Stuttgart 03.09.2002)
>>>
>>>Analysis by Shredder 6:
>>>
>>>1.Ld3 Kh8 2.g3 Kg8 3.g4 Kh8 4.g5 Kg8 5.g6 hxg6 6.Kb2
>>>+- (20.66) Tiefe: 24/36 00:01:57 28983kN, tb=2198
>>>1.Ld3 Kh8 2.g3 Kg8 3.g4 Kh8 4.g5 Kg8 5.Kb2 Kh8 6.Lc2 Kg8 7.Ka1
>>>+- (20.65) Tiefe: 25/37 00:02:06 30558kN, tb=3128
>>>
>>>
>>>Eduard
>>
>>Chessmaster 9000, on a PIII-733, announces Mate in 15 in 1:20....
>>
>>Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
>>0:00	6/10	2.73	24739		1.Bd3 Kh8 2.Kb2 Kg8 3.Kc3 Kh8 4.Kd4
>>					Kg8 5.Be4 Kh8 6.g4 Kg8 7.g5
>>0:00	7/11	5.90	44073		1.Bd3 Kh8 2.g4 Kg8 3.g5 Kh8 4.g6
>>					hxg6 5.Bxg6 Kg8 6.h7+ Kh8 7.Kb2
>>					fxg6 8.f7 Kxh7 9.f8=Q
>>0:01	8/12	5.90	84872		1.Bd3 Kh8 2.g4 Kg8 3.g5 Kh8 4.g6
>>					hxg6 5.Bxg6 Kg8 6.h7+ Kh8 7.Kb2
>>					fxg6 8.f7 Kxh7 9.f8=Q
>>0:01	9/13	8.12	136552		1.Bd3 Kh8 2.g4 Kg8 3.g5 Kh8 4.g6
>>					hxg6 5.Bxg6 Kg8 6.h7+ Kh8 7.Kb2
>>					fxg6 8.f7 Kxh7 9.f8=Q g5 10.Qxc8
>>0:02	10/14	8.72	221556		1.Bd3 Kh8 2.g4 Kg8 3.g5 Kh8 4.g6
>>					hxg6 5.Bxg6 Kg8 6.h7+ Kh8 7.Kb2
>>					fxg6 8.f7 Kg7 9.f8=Q+ Kxf8 10.h8=Q+
>>					Kf7 11.Qxc8 Ke6 12.Qxb7 Kxd6
>>0:03	11/15	8.72	370396		1.Bd3 Kh8 2.g4 Kg8 3.g5 Kh8 4.g6
>>					hxg6 5.Bxg6 Kg8 6.h7+ Kh8 7.Kb2
>>					fxg6 8.f7 Kg7 9.f8=Q+ Kxf8 10.h8=Q+
>>					Kf7 11.Qxc8 Ke6 12.Qxb7 Kxd6
>>0:04	12/16	9.08	555031		1.Bd3 Kh8 2.g4 Kg8 3.g5 Kh8 4.g6
>>					hxg6 5.Bxg6 Kg8 6.h7+ Kh8 7.Kb2
>>					fxg6 8.f7 Kg7 9.f8=Q+ Kxf8 10.h8=Q+
>>					Kf7 11.Qxc8 Ke6 12.Qxb7 Kxd6 13.Qc7+
>>					Ke6
>>0:06	13/17	9.91	882678		1.Bd3 Kh8 2.g4 Kg8 3.g5 Kh8 4.g6
>>					hxg6 5.Bxg6 Kg8 6.Bxf7+ Kxf7 7.h7
>>					Kxf6 8.h8=Q+ Ke6 9.Qxc8 Kxd6 10.Qxb7
>>					Ke6 11.Qe4+ Kd6 12.Qf4+ Kc6 13.Qc7+
>>					Kb5
>>0:13	14/18	12.02	1746857		1.Bd3 Kh8 2.g4 Kg8 3.g5 Kh8 4.g6
>>					hxg6 5.Bxg6 Kg8 6.Bxf7+ Kh7 7.Bb3
>>					Kxh6 8.Bc2 Kg5 9.f7 Kf4 10.f8=Q+
>>					Ke5 11.Qxc8 Kxd6 12.Qxb7
>>0:22	15/19	12.87	2884957		1.Bd3 Kh8 2.g4 Kg8 3.g5 Kh8 4.g6
>>					hxg6 5.Bxg6 Kg8 6.Bxf7+ Kh7 7.Bb3
>>					Kxh6 8.Bc2 Kg5 9.f7 Kf4 10.f8=Q+
>>					Ke5 11.Ba4 Ke6 12.Qxc8 Kxd6 13.Qc7+
>>					Ke6 14.Bxd7+ Ke7 15.Qxb7
>>0:49	16/20	15.00	6069021		1.Bd3 Kh8 2.g4 Kg8 3.g5 Kh8 4.g6
>>					hxg6 5.Bxg6 Kg8 6.h7+ Kh8 7.Kb1
>>					fxg6 8.f7 Kg7 9.f8=Q+ Kxf8 10.h8=Q+
>>					Kf7 11.Qxc8 Ke6 12.Qxb7 g5 13.Qf3
>>					Kxd6 14.Qf6+ Kd5 15.b7 g4 16.Qg5+
>>1:20	17/21	Mate15	10316701	1.Bd3 Kh8 2.g4 Kg8 3.g5 Kh8 4.Bf5
>>					Kg8 5.Kb2 Kh8 6.Kc3 Kg8 7.Kd4 Kh8
>>					8.g6 hxg6 9.Bxg6 Kg8 10.h7+ Kh8
>>					11.Ke5 fxg6 12.f7 Kxh7 13.f8=Q
>>					g5 14.Kf6 g4 15.Qg7#
>>2:00	18/22	Mate15	16495641	1.Bd3 Kh8 2.g4 Kg8 3.g5 Kh8 4.Bf5
>>					Kg8 5.Kb2 Kh8 6.Kc3 Kg8 7.Kd4 Kh8
>>					8.g6 hxg6 9.Bxg6 Kg8 10.h7+ Kh8
>>					11.Ke5 fxg6 12.f7 Kxh7 13.f8=Q
>>					g5 14.Kf6 g4 15.Qg7#
>>3:12	19/23	Mate15	28112115	1.Bd3 Kh8 2.g4 Kg8 3.g5 Kh8 4.Bf5
>>					Kg8 5.Kb2 Kh8 6.Kc3 Kg8 7.Kd4 Kh8
>>					8.g6 hxg6 9.Bxg6 Kg8 10.h7+ Kh8
>>					11.Ke5 fxg6 12.f7 Kxh7 13.f8=Q
>>					g5 14.Kf6 g4 15.Qg7#
>>
>>jm
>
>Very good this CM 9000!
>
>Genius 65 on P600 with 64 Mb HT:
>
>1.Bd3! 01/10 26-32 07:30 122177451 #in15 Bd3 Kh8 g4 Kg8 g5 Kh8 Kb2 Kg8 Kc3 Kh8
>g6 hxg6
>
>Regards,
>Eduard


Is not 1.g4 Kh8 2.Ld3 Kg8 just the same as 1.Ld3 Kh8 2.g4 etc. etc.
I have to agree it is strange that F7 give no PV though other than 1.g4!

Torstein



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