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Subject: Re: DTS article robert hyatt - revealing his bad math

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 14:37:32 09/03/02

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On September 03, 2002 at 17:11:14, Peter Berger wrote:

>On September 03, 2002 at 16:08:56, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On September 03, 2002 at 14:22:05, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>
>>>On September 03, 2002 at 13:51:52, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>It is about the second digit being round, because
>>>that makes the chance you have such a speedup 1/10 of
>>>a chance.
>>>
>>>Bob claims a 2.0 speedup which bob claims according to
>>>his paper based upon counting up all times then dividing
>>>by total times.
>>>
>>>However if we look at every speedup individually then
>>>if you get a 2.0 speedup that's in a range of 1.95-2.04
>>>RIGHT?
>>
>>Maybe or maybe not.  I believe all those numbers were integers.  And
>>I very likely did the normal integer round-up so that numbers > 1.90
>>would become 2.0.  I really don't remember now...
>>
>
>I think this post might get missed in the jungle by accident but it shouldn't -
>so I add an offbeat random answer :).
>This was my first thought looking at the data - and it is the most logical
>explanation by far IMHO.  If needed - this could also be thought of as a flaw in
>the original publication btw , much more reasonable than believing the data
>itself is flawed I think.
>
>Regards,
>Peter


It turns out it was probably wrong.  Although the person I talked to could not
remember whether we used floats or ints for the data.  He _thinks_ floats
because Harry produced some ungodly node counts running on a Cray for days at
a single position.

But the problem was not as serious as it first sounded, and after a 15 minute
phone conversation, my memory was a bit more clear on what we did and why.

Let me know if that discussion makes more sense...




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