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Subject: Re: How To Fairly Allocate Resources Between 2 multitasking Chess Progra

Author: fca

Date: 03:29:18 08/17/98

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On August 16, 1998 at 09:46:29, Tom Kerrigan wrote:

>This post is very hard to read.
>
>Are you trying to say that not pondering is a problem or a dirty trick? It
>sounds like it.

Not at all. KK is saying that if neither side has permanent brain enabled, is it
possible for "cheats" to occur within the winboard/xboard continuum.  By
"cheats" I assume things like "wait until 3 a.m. when no one is watching, and:

auto- adjust the opponent's clock or position, or

force him to move immediately, or

Force him to disregard certain moves, or select only from certain moves, or

scramble his hash,

and so on...

>What does "ie the matches take place" mean?

I guess "Are completed without the i/f detecting an anomaly"?

>And why post questions to Bob on CCC?

General interest - see, you and I jumped in?  ;-)

>As for your question about cheating (I'll answer even though I'm not Bob), well,
>the "Winboard/Xboard standard" doesn't have anything to say about the amount of
>time or memory a program takes. It may not ponder on the opponent's time, but it
>may be calculating the value of pi, and taking a tremendous amount of memory to
>do it...

KK is looking at more than this, I believe.

btw I thought calculating pi to many tens of thousands of places was what
Windows does each time it restarts... ;-)

Kind regards

fca

PS: Unconnectedly, many seem a bit jumpy here this week, after incidents here
and elsewhere...


>On August 15, 1998 at 12:37:42, Komputer Korner wrote:
>
>>Bob, assuming that we wave away problems with not having pondering (programs do
>>not play optimally when not allowed to ponder) and simply disable pondering in
>>matches within an interface like Winboard/Xboard, then what are the other
>>problems (dirty tricks) that some programmers can dream up and still stay within
>>the Winboard/Xboard  standard (ie the matches take place). In other words is it
>>possible to cheat within the Winboard/Xboard standard?
>>--
>>Komputer Korner



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