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Subject: Re: Chess Tiger 15...results, some comments and some games

Author: Christophe Theron

Date: 09:09:47 09/05/02

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On September 04, 2002 at 12:51:10, Jorge wrote:

>On September 03, 2002 at 04:54:30, Marc van Hal wrote:
>
>>On September 02, 2002 at 17:49:35, Chessfun wrote:
>>
>>>On September 02, 2002 at 17:38:12, Roy Eassa wrote:
>>>
>>>>On September 02, 2002 at 17:16:53, Chessfun wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Individual statistics:
>>>>>(1) Tiger 15 normal style     : 192 (+ 71,= 85,- 36), 59.1 %
>>>>>
>>>>>Deep Fritz                    :  20 (+  7,=  7,-  6), 52.5 %
>>>>>Junior 6a                     :  10 (+  3,=  4,-  3), 50.0 %
>>>>>Chess Tiger 14.0              :  20 (+ 10,=  6,-  4), 65.0 %
>>>>>Gambit Tiger 2.0              :  20 (+  8,= 11,-  1), 67.5 %
>>>>>Junior 7                      :  20 (+ 12,=  5,-  3), 72.5 %
>>>>>Fritz 7 001                   :  20 (+  6,= 10,-  4), 55.0 %
>>>>>Fritz 7 008                   :   8 (+  3,=  4,-  1), 62.5 %
>>>>>Shredder 6                    :   9 (+  3,=  4,-  2), 55.6 %
>>>>>Hiarcs 8                      :  20 (+  5,= 12,-  3), 55.0 %
>>>>>Shredder Paderborn            :  20 (+  5,=  9,-  6), 47.5 %
>>>>>Crafty 18.15                  :   6 (+  4,=  1,-  1), 75.0 %
>>>>>Deep Fritz 7                  :  19 (+  5,= 12,-  2), 57.9 %
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Interesting how Tiger 15 absolutely crushes the two previous Tigers (combined
>>>>score of 18 wins, 5 losses, and 17 draws)!  It also impressively demolishes
>>>>Junior 7.
>>>>
>>>>Against Deep Fritz 6, Shredder Paderborn, and Junior 6a, its total record so far
>>>>is a more modest 15 wins, 15 losses, and 20 draws.  I have a feeling that with
>>>>time this will improve.
>>>
>>>Actually and naturally others had different scores. I don't remember all others
>>>but remember we had some conversations on Junior 6a. I know others had better
>>>scores against it, likely worse against the Tiger's I don't recall. These are
>>>simply the results I myself got.
>>>
>>>Sarah.
>>I have a form of Alexander1 which mostlikely will be close too Tiger 15
>>And looking and the scores and this Alexander games i think it has become more
>>Tactical but had to pay for it by being also less positional.
>>Am I right?
>>Or would this be an improved engine version.
>>the trick is i found out Tiger is smart.
>>Marc
>
>I find these results quite impressive. It is almost certain that version 15 is
>stronger than the previous versions, which was one of Ed's goal to accomplish.
>It also did very well against the other top programs.
>
>regards,
>jorge



Actually during the developpement of Tiger 15 I have *NEVER* matched the new
engine against Chess Tiger 14 or Gambit Tiger 2.

So the good result against the previous version is not something I have focused
on.

I guess it just shows that the new engine has more knowledge and the result is
that it clearly exposes the weaknesses in the previous versions.



    Christophe



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