Author: Chessfun
Date: 10:10:25 09/05/02
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On September 05, 2002 at 10:20:31, Uri Blass wrote: >On September 05, 2002 at 10:08:09, Rolf Tueschen wrote: > >>On September 05, 2002 at 09:54:16, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>On September 04, 2002 at 17:06:29, John Wentworth2 wrote: >>> >>>>Is this a common opening for defeating programs?? >>>> >>>> >>>>On Chess.net >>>> >>>>Belle is Fritz6 on a 1.2Ghz Athlon 64MB hash size >>>> >>>> >>>>MrMarlboro (2557) vs. Belle (2543) --- Mon Sep 2, 11:08 EDT 2002 >>>>unrated blitz match, initial time: 5 minutes, increment: 8 seconds. >>>> >>>>Move MrMarlboro Belle >>>>---- ---------------- ---------------- >>>> 1. e4 (0:00.0) c5 (0:00.0) >>>> 2. e5 (0:00.9) Nc6 (0:27.0) >>>> 3. f4 (0:01.0) g5 (0:22.2) >>>> 4. d4 (0:00.8) cxd4 (0:21.4) >>>> 5. Bc4 (0:01.0) gxf4 (0:19.7) >>>> 6. c3 (0:01.9) dxc3 (0:17.9) >>>> 7. Bxf7+ (0:06.0) Kxf7 (0:06.9) >>>> 8. Qh5+ (0:06.7) Ke6 (0:11.4) >>>> 9. Qh3+ (0:00.8) Kxe5 (0:18.5) >>>> 10. Bxf4+ (0:03.2) Kxf4 (0:13.8) >>> >>> >>>This is a big tactical blunder >>>Fritz6 is simply weak in tactics here >>> >>>Deep Fritz with only 32 mbytes and p800 can see the fail low for Kxf4 >>>in 10 seconds. >>> >>>[D]r1bq1bnr/pp1pp2p/2n5/4k3/5B2/2p4Q/PP4PP/RN2K1NR b KQ - 0 1 bm Kf6 >>> >>>Analysis by Deep Fritz: >>> >>>10...Ke5xf4! >>> -+ (-5.66) Depth: 1/5 00:00:00 >>>10...Ke5xf4! 11.Nb1xc3 >>> -+ (-6.13) Depth: 1/6 00:00:00 >>>10...Ke5xf4 11.Nb1xc3 >>> -+ (-6.13) Depth: 2/8 00:00:00 >>>10...Ke5xf4 11.Qh3-g3+ Kf4-f5 12.Nb1xc3 >>> -+ (-6.00) Depth: 3/12 00:00:00 1kN >>>10...Ke5xf4 11.Ng1-e2+ Kf4-g5 12.Qh3-g3+ Kg5-h6 13.Nb1xc3 >>> -+ (-6.13) Depth: 4/16 00:00:00 7kN >>>10...Ke5xf4 11.Nb1xc3 d7-d5 12.Qh3-g3+ Kf4-f5 13.Ng1-f3 >>> -+ (-6.00) Depth: 5/18 00:00:00 21kN >>>10...Ke5xf4-- >>> -+ (-5.69) Depth: 6/19 00:00:00 79kN >>>10...Ke5xf4-- 11.Qh3-h5 d7-d5 12.Ng1-e2+ Kf4-e4 13.Nb1xc3+ Ke4-d3 14.Ra1-d1+ >>>Kd3-c4 15.Nc3xd5 >>> -+ (-4.66) Depth: 6/20 00:00:00 106kN >>>10...Ke5xf4-- >>> -+ (-4.34) Depth: 7/24 00:00:00 119kN >>>10...Ke5xf4-- 11.Qh3-h5 Bf8-g7 12.Ng1-e2+ Kf4-e4 13.Qh5-f3+ Ke4-e5 14.Qf3xc3+ >>>Ke5-e6 15.Qc3xg7 >>> -+ (-3.47) Depth: 7/26 00:00:00 270kN >>>10...Ke5xf4-- >>> -+ (-3.16) Depth: 8/26 00:00:00 350kN >>>10...Ke5xf4-- 11.Qh3-h5 d7-d5 12.Ng1-e2+ Kf4-e4 13.Nb1xc3+ Ke4-d3 14.Ra1-d1+ >>>Kd3-c4 15.Rd1xd5 Qd8-b6 16.Qh5-h4+ >>> -+ (-1.78) Depth: 8/31 00:00:01 858kN >>>10...Ke5xf4-- >>> -+ (-1.47) Depth: 9/26 00:00:02 1301kN >>>10...Ke5xf4-- 11.Qh3-h5 d7-d5 12.Ng1-e2+ Kf4-e4 13.Nb1xc3+ Ke4-d3 14.Ra1-d1+ >>>Kd3-c4 15.Rd1xd5 Ng8-f6 >>> µ (-1.25) Depth: 9/36 00:00:03 2409kN >>>10...Ke5xf4 11.Qh3-h5 d7-d5 12.Ng1-e2+ Kf4-e4 13.Nb1xc3+ Ke4-d3 14.Ra1-d1+ >>>Kd3-c4 15.Rd1xd5 Ng8-f6 16.Qh5-h4+ >>> µ (-1.25) Depth: 10/40 00:00:08 6338kN >>>10...Ke5xf4-- >>> µ (-0.94) Depth: 11/30 00:00:10 7373kN >>>10...Ke5xf4-- 11.Qh3-h5 d7-d5 12.Ng1-e2+ Kf4-e4 13.Nb1xc3+ Ke4-d3 14.Ra1-d1+ >>>Kd3-c4 15.Rd1xd5 e7-e5 16.Rd5xd8 >>> +- (1.81) Depth: 11/42 00:00:28 15962kN >>>10...Ke5-f6! >>> +- (1.78) Depth: 11/42 00:00:29 21858kN >>>10...Ke5-f6! 11.Qh3-h4+ Kf6-f7 12.Qh4-h5+ Kf7-e6 13.Qh5-h3+ >>> = (0.00) Depth: 11/43 00:00:40 29174kN >>>10...Ke5-f6 11.Qh3-h4+ Kf6-f7 12.Qh4-h5+ Kf7-e6 13.Qh5-h3+ >>> = (0.00) Depth: 12/43 00:01:10 48823kN >>> >>>(Blass, Tel-aviv 05.09.2002) >> >>My FRITZ 7 gets it even "faster". Kf6 in 24'' but still with +- and after 27'' >>he sees =. As engine in CB8. Is Deep slower or is it because of CB8? >> >>Rolf Tueschen > >It is old Deep Fritz(the Deep Fritz that came before Fritz7) >Sorry for not mentioning it. You shouldn't have to mention it the old one is called Deep Fritz the new one Deep Fritz 7. Your analysis says Deep Fritz....seems clear enough. But clearly Fritz 6 struggles with this; New game r1bq1bnr/pp1pp2p/2n5/4k3/5B2/2p4Q/PP4PP/RN2K1NR b KQ - 0 1 Analysis by Fritz 6: TB 1400 64 Mb 1...Kxf4 2.Qh5 d5 3.Ne2+ Ke4 4.Nbxc3+ Kd3 5.Rd1+ Kc4 6.Rxd5 µ (-1.22) Depth: 10/36 00:00:05 6313kN 1...Kxf4-- µ (-0.91) Depth: 11/27 00:00:06 7411kN 1...Kxf4 2.Qh5 d5 3.Ne2+ Ke4 4.Nbxc3+ Kd3 5.Rd1+ Kc4 6.Rxd5 +- (1.81) Depth: 11/42 00:00:14 16309kN 1...Kf6! +- (1.78) Depth: 11/42 00:00:19 21664kN 1...Kf6 2.Qh4+ Ke6 3.Qh3+ Kf7 4.Qh5+ Kg7 5.Qg5+ Kf7 6.Qh5+ = (0.00) Depth: 11/42 00:00:25 28559kN 1...Kf6 2.Qh4+ Ke6 3.Qh3+ Kf7 4.Qh5+ Kg7 5.Qg5+ Kf7 6.Qh5+ = (0.00) Depth: 12/40 00:00:48 52448kN (, MyTown 05.09.2002) As for Deep Fritz 7 that's another story; New game r1bq1bnr/pp1pp2p/2n5/4k3/5B2/2p4Q/PP4PP/RN2K1NR b KQ - 0 1 Analysis by Deep Fritz 7: TB 1400 64 Mb 1...Kxf4 +- (5.75) Depth: 6/36 00:00:00 437kN 1...Ke4! +- (5.72) Depth: 6/36 00:00:00 538kN 1...Ke4! +- (5.56) Depth: 6/36 00:00:00 541kN 1...Ke4! +- (5.25) Depth: 6/36 00:00:00 546kN 1...Ke4! +- (4.62) Depth: 6/36 00:00:00 562kN 1...Ke4 2.Ne2 Bg7 3.Qf3+ Kf5 4.Bc7+ Kg6 5.Bxd8 Nxd8 6.Qg4+ Kf7 7.0-0+ Nf6 8.Nbxc3 +- (3.47) Depth: 6/36 00:00:01 842kN 1...Kf6! +- (3.44) Depth: 6/36 00:00:01 846kN 1...Kf6! +- (3.28) Depth: 6/36 00:00:01 847kN 1...Kf6! +- (2.97) Depth: 6/36 00:00:01 849kN 1...Kf6! +- (2.34) Depth: 6/36 00:00:01 855kN 1...Kf6 2.Qh4+ Kf7 3.Qh5+ Kf6 4.Qg5+ Kf7 5.Qh5+ = (0.00) Depth: 6/36 00:00:01 881kN 1...Kf6 2.Qh4+ Kf7 3.Qh5+ Kf6 4.Qg5+ Kf7 5.Qh5+ = (0.00) Depth: 7/18 00:00:01 913kN 1...Kf6 2.Qh4+ Kf7 3.Qh5+ Kf6 4.Qg5+ Kf7 5.Qh5+ = (0.00) Depth: 8/23 00:00:01 1031kN 1...Kf6 2.Qh4+ Kf7 3.Qh5+ Kf6 4.Qg5+ Kf7 5.Qh5+ = (0.00) Depth: 9/28 00:00:02 1413kN 1...Kf6 2.Qh4+ Kf7 3.Qh5+ Kf6 4.Qg5+ Kf7 5.Qh5+ = (0.00) Depth: 10/47 00:00:04 2759kN 1...Kf6 2.Qh4+ Kf7 3.Qh5+ Kf6 4.Qg5+ Kf7 5.Qh5+ = (0.00) Depth: 11/37 00:00:10 7521kN 1...Kf6 2.Qh4+ Kf7 3.Qh5+ Kf6 4.Qg5+ Kf7 5.Qh5+ = (0.00) Depth: 12/43 00:00:31 22486kN Sarah.
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