Author: Uri Blass
Date: 13:31:46 09/05/02
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On September 05, 2002 at 16:15:36, Bas Hamstra wrote: >On September 05, 2002 at 15:20:55, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On September 05, 2002 at 14:39:09, Roy Eassa wrote: >> >>>On September 05, 2002 at 07:03:21, Joachim Rang wrote: >>> >>>>On September 05, 2002 at 04:20:24, Jouni Uski wrote: >>>> >>>>>Just notice for everyone. Ridderkerk 1. division is ended: >>>>> >>>>>WBEC Ridderkerk, 1st Division - 2nd edition. >>>>>DUAL-P3-1266 2002.06.21 - 2002.09.03 >>>>>PONDER ON!! >>>>> Score >>>>>------------------------------------ >>>>> 1: Yace 0.99.56 50.0 / 76 >>>>> 2: Comet B.46 44.5 / 76 >>>>> 3: Gromit 3.8.2 44.0 / 76 >>>>> 4: Pharaon 2.62 44.0 / 76 >>>>> 5: Nejmet 3.06 43.5 / 76 >>>>> 6: Quark 1.76 43.5 / 76 >>>>> 7: Pepito 1.53 42.0 / 76 >>>>> 8: Little Goliath 3.5 40.5 / 76 >>>>> 9: Crafty 18.15 40.0 / 76 >>>>>10: AnMon 5.21 38.0 / 76 >>>>>11: SOS 99.11.03 37.5 / 76 >>>>>12: Amy 0.7 37.5 / 76 >>>>>13: GreenLightCh 2.18 37.0 / 76 >>>>>14: Amyan 1.531 34.0 / 76 >>>>>15: TheCrazyBishop 0045 33.5 / 76 >>>>>16: Phalanx XXII 32.5 / 76 >>>>>17: Francesca MAD 0.06 31.5 / 76 >>>>>18: Leila 0.53h 30.0 / 76 >>>>>19: King Of Kings 2.022 29.0 / 76 >>>>>20: Dragon 4.2.3 27.5 / 76 >>>>>------------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>>Hmm... Yace still the strongest amateur!? Hasn't here been any progress in last >>>>>year really in the top? >>>>> >>>>>Jouni >>>> >>>> >>>>Aristarch 4.4 will beat Yace ;-) >>>> >>>>I', not sure, if Aristarch is the stongest Amateur (I doubt it), but at least >>>>against Yace it's a bit stronger. I did several Matches between Yace and >>>>Aristarch 4.4 and all ended with a slightly advantage for Ari. >>> >>> >>>"List" is not included in the above, either, and there's some evidence that it's >>>the strongest amateur program. >> >>I do not think that engine that does not know to ponder and does not have book >>is the strongest amateur program. >> >>Pondering and book is part of the program. >> >>Uri > >Why not? What counts is the result you get. BTW my guess is Ruffian is on top. >At FICS it was in the (standard) top-20 at a lousy P2-300. That's amazing. I >would estimate Crafty would have at best 2100 at that hardware. Ruffian is over >2400. > >Bas. The point is that the result of list in Kurt unziker's tournament was achieved by a book that it not list's book. I have nothing against the tournament and I read Kurt's post but the consequence that there is evidence that list is the strongest amteur program seems to be wrong. Mogens larsen test List against the first division programs in fair condition(every program use it's book and 2 games) that means that list is using no book and list scored sligthly less than 50%. I did not talk about Ruffian because it is clear that the posters talked only about free programs. Uri
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