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Subject: Re: interesting idea

Author: Rolf Tueschen

Date: 11:50:42 09/06/02

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On September 06, 2002 at 14:35:00, Rolf Tueschen wrote:

>On September 06, 2002 at 14:17:59, Sune Fischer wrote:
>
>>On September 06, 2002 at 11:53:13, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>I have posted the raw data logs, the "cooked data" that I extracted from the
>>>logs, and the speedup tables (those for Martin last nite).  It might be
>>>interesting to take the cb.c program I also posted and change the speedup
>>>format to show 3 decimel places (I used 2 as Martin had suggested that would
>>>be better.)
>>>
>>>It would be interesting to run the program with 1, 2 and 3 decimel place
>>>accuracy, and let everyone look at the three tables and decide which one
>>>_really_ provides the most useful information.  I'll bet everyone likes
>>>.1 better than .11 because is .01 really significant?  Or is it just random
>>>noise?
>>
>>To a numerical scientist (as I'm sure you know) the numbers 1.8 and 1.80 are not
>>identical, 1.80 is ten times more accurate, and that is a powerful statement in
>>itself.
>
>Excuse me here. I don't buy this. These numbers are _not_ measured numbers but
>calculated "factors".


Outsch. I just read that Bob said the speedups wereraw data, so "measured"? Then
my argument seems gone. :)
It's a bit confusing. I don't want to spread nonsense. Because I'm not dense. :)

Rolf Tueschen


> Now, since a single factor "result" has a restricted
>meaning and since you want to calculate even further the average your question
>of accuracy is not that important. Since the average 1.7 is with plus/minus
>anyway, it wouldn't help much if we would have 1.71 as the average. Or what
>would you think?
>
>Rolf Tueschen
>
>
>>To produce such a number you need to (a) run a larger experiment and do some
>>statistics to get an average or (b) get some better and probably a lot more
>>expensive equipment (higher resolution mass-spectrometers, or whatever the
>>situation may call for), though in this case (a) seems like the only option.
>>
>>>I will let someone else run this as I have supplied the raw data and program
>>>on my ftp machine.  that way I can't be accused of biasing the results in any
>>>way.  :)
>>
>>That's all you can do, people should be able to reproduce the results under the
>>same circumstances.
>>
>>-S.



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