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Subject: Re: Static Eval Test

Author: Peter McKenzie

Date: 14:53:49 09/08/02

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On September 08, 2002 at 16:20:51, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On September 08, 2002 at 15:38:16, Peter McKenzie wrote:
>
>Ah yes sorry i should've derived it from other comments.

no problem

>But whatever you say or do, my comments which i made during
>the game was that you were crushed in book here. Kure was

My book wasn't the best here, no argument about that.  But at this moment (for
better or for worse) I am working on the engine.

>also smiling the entire game. The position after the opening
>is impossible to play well for white.

That might be a bit harsh, I think white could have at least put up a bit of a
fight.  The point for me is that my program was totally clueless about the
position, and that is something I really want to fix.  I've seen this hole in
knowledge before, but never got around to fixing it.

cheers,
Peter

>
>>On September 08, 2002 at 13:03:00, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>
>>>On September 07, 2002 at 19:46:49, Peter McKenzie wrote:
>>>
>>>black up 0.842 says DIEP. I don't follow your logics anyhow.
>>
>>Good eval from Diep, as expected.
>>I am fixing my eval to say the something similar.
>>
>>>Black is totally won everywhere.
>>
>>Yes of course, I accidentally wrote the opposite.
>>
>>>
>>>>I've been having a break from computer chess post WCCC, but have now started
>>>>going over some of Warp's games.  First up is Warp's worst game, the loss vs
>>>>Brutus.  In this game, Warp showed a total lack of understanding of its
>>>>centralised king in the early middlegame and lost without a fight.
>>>>
>>>>I present here the position after move 21 in the game.  White has grabbed a pawn
>>>>thinking this position is OK, but in reality the white king is hopelessly stuck
>>>>in the centre.  Also, white is passive, black is active and has a safe king,
>>>>therefore white is totally winning here:
>>>>
>>>>[D]r1r3k1/1p3ppp/b5q1/p7/4n3/P3PNB1/1P3PPP/1Q1RK2R b K - 0 1
>>>>
>>>>I am curious what the static evaluation of various programs is here.  The
>>>>version of warp used in Maastricht gives 0.238 in favour of white.  Ideally the
>>>>static evaluation should favour black here I think.
>>
>>I got that right though :-)
>>
>>>>
>>>>cheers,
>>>>Peter



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