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Subject: Re: Static Eval Test

Author: Peter McKenzie

Date: 15:48:47 09/08/02

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On September 08, 2002 at 18:26:27, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On September 08, 2002 at 17:53:49, Peter McKenzie wrote:
>
>I'm a bit amazed you don't have all that knowledge in chop
>yet.

Yeah, its pretty embarrasing!
Mainly the terms are there, but the tuning is poor.

>
>>On September 08, 2002 at 16:20:51, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>
>>>On September 08, 2002 at 15:38:16, Peter McKenzie wrote:
>>>
>>>Ah yes sorry i should've derived it from other comments.
>>
>>no problem
>>
>>>But whatever you say or do, my comments which i made during
>>>the game was that you were crushed in book here. Kure was
>>
>>My book wasn't the best here, no argument about that.  But at this moment (for
>>better or for worse) I am working on the engine.
>>
>>>also smiling the entire game. The position after the opening
>>>is impossible to play well for white.
>>
>>That might be a bit harsh, I think white could have at least put up a bit of a
>>fight.  The point for me is that my program was totally clueless about the
>>position, and that is something I really want to fix.  I've seen this hole in
>>knowledge before, but never got around to fixing it.
>>
>>cheers,
>>Peter
>>
>>>
>>>>On September 08, 2002 at 13:03:00, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On September 07, 2002 at 19:46:49, Peter McKenzie wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>black up 0.842 says DIEP. I don't follow your logics anyhow.
>>>>
>>>>Good eval from Diep, as expected.
>>>>I am fixing my eval to say the something similar.
>>>>
>>>>>Black is totally won everywhere.
>>>>
>>>>Yes of course, I accidentally wrote the opposite.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I've been having a break from computer chess post WCCC, but have now started
>>>>>>going over some of Warp's games.  First up is Warp's worst game, the loss vs
>>>>>>Brutus.  In this game, Warp showed a total lack of understanding of its
>>>>>>centralised king in the early middlegame and lost without a fight.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I present here the position after move 21 in the game.  White has grabbed a pawn
>>>>>>thinking this position is OK, but in reality the white king is hopelessly stuck
>>>>>>in the centre.  Also, white is passive, black is active and has a safe king,
>>>>>>therefore white is totally winning here:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>[D]r1r3k1/1p3ppp/b5q1/p7/4n3/P3PNB1/1P3PPP/1Q1RK2R b K - 0 1
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I am curious what the static evaluation of various programs is here.  The
>>>>>>version of warp used in Maastricht gives 0.238 in favour of white.  Ideally the
>>>>>>static evaluation should favour black here I think.
>>>>
>>>>I got that right though :-)
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>cheers,
>>>>>>Peter



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