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Subject: Re: Static Eval Test

Author: Roy Eassa

Date: 11:02:19 09/09/02

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On September 09, 2002 at 11:14:55, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On September 08, 2002 at 20:39:42, Brian Richardson wrote:
>
>>Tinker's static evaluation is -.24, which is good for black, despite
>>being a pawn down.
>>
>>Tinker's eval is asymmetric, especially some king safety terms, so
>>as it happens, the static eval if white is set on move is -1.31 (better for
>>black).
>>
>>This is also one of those positions where the score bounces around a lot
>>between odd and even plys:
>>ply score
>>6   0.21
>>7   0.87
>>8   0.50
>>9   1.22
>>10  0.60
>>11  1.17
>>(all favoring black).
>
>
>Mine gets pretty solid by depth=9 and gets worse and worse for white as
>the depth advances:
>
>
>         (2)    8->   5.82  -0.49   1. ... Rd8 2. Qc2 Rxd1+ 3. Qxd1 Nc5
>                                    4. Ne5 Qe4 5. Rg1 Nd3+ 6. Nxd3 Bxd3
>                9     7.10  -0.45   1. ... Rd8 2. Qc2 Rxd1+ 3. Qxd1 Nc5
>                                    4. Ne5 Qf5 5. b4 axb4 6. axb4 Nd3+
>                                    7. Nxd3 Bxd3
>                9    11.39  -0.78   1. ... Re8 2. Rd5 Rac8 3. Nh4 Qf6 4.
>                                    Nf5 Bc4 5. Rxa5 Rcd8
>                9->  11.67  -0.78   1. ... Re8 2. Rd5 Rac8 3. Nh4 Qf6 4.
>                                    Nf5 Bc4 5. Rxa5 Rcd8
>               10    17.89  -0.74   1. ... Re8 2. Rd4 Rac8 3. a4 Qf5 4.
>                                    Bf4 Qg4 5. Rg1 Qf5 6. Qd1
>               10->  20.66  -0.74   1. ... Re8 2. Rd4 Rac8 3. a4 Qf5 4.
>                                    Bf4 Qg4 5. Rg1 Qf5 6. Qd1
>               11    39.32  -0.91   1. ... Re8 2. Rd5 Rac8 3. Rg1 Qc6 4.
>                                    Qd1 Bb5 5. Be5 f6 6. Bf4 b6
>               11->  41.57  -0.91   1. ... Re8 2. Rd5 Rac8 3. Rg1 Qc6 4.
>                                    Qd1 Bb5 5. Be5 f6 6. Bf4 b6
>               12     1:36  -0.96   1. ... Re8 2. Rd4 Rac8 3. a4 b6 4.
>                                    Rg1 Qf5 5. Bf4 f6 6. Nd2 Bb7 7. Qd3
>               12->   1:43  -0.96   1. ... Re8 2. Rd4 Rac8 3. a4 b6 4.
>                                    Rg1 Qf5 5. Bf4 f6 6. Nd2 Bb7 7. Qd3
>               13     2:50  -1.02   1. ... Re8 2. Rd4 Rac8 3. a4 b6 4.
>                                    Rg1 Qe6 5. Qd1 f6 6. Rd7 Bc4 7. Qd4
>                                    Nxg3 8. hxg3
>               13->   3:05  -1.02   1. ... Re8 2. Rd4 Rac8 3. a4 b6 4.
>                                    Rg1 Qe6 5. Qd1 f6 6. Rd7 Bc4 7. Qd4
>                                    Nxg3 8. hxg3
>
>This doesn't show black winning any material, so there is roughly -2.0
>positional compensation for black, according to Crafty...


Some analysis from when the position was first posted:

1...Re8 2.Rd4

   [2.Rd5 Rac8 3.Rd4 Qf5 4.a4 Nxg3 5.Qxf5 Nxf5 -+]

2...Rac8 3.a4 h6! 4.Rd7

   [4.b3 Qf5 5.Qb2
      (5.Bh4 g5 -+)
    5...Nxf2 6.Kxf2 Rc2+ -+]

4...Qb6! 5.b4

   [5.Qa1 Nxg3 6.hxg3 Rxe3+ 7.fxe3 Qxe3+ 8.Kd1 Qe2#]

   [5.Rd4 Nc3 6.Qa1 Ne2 7.Rd2 Nxg3 8.hxg3 Rxe3+ 9.fxe3 Qxe3+ 10.Kd1 Qb3+
    11.Ke1 Re8+ and mates]

5...Nc3 6.Qc1 Qxb4 7.Bd6 Qxa4 8.Rc7 Rxc7 9.Bxc7 Qc4 10.Qc2 Qxc7 -+




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