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Subject: Re: Sorry Rolf - the winner is the winner.

Author: martin fierz

Date: 22:50:30 09/13/02

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On September 13, 2002 at 22:44:16, David Dory wrote:

>On September 13, 2002 at 18:39:40, martin fierz wrote:
>
>>On September 13, 2002 at 15:45:05, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>>
>>>I'm sorry but I cannot agree! Would you think taht Elo is a universal utility
>>>for calculating the chess performance of humans alone or humans and apes and
>>>flowers? Remind you of the apples and beans theorem. It doesn't make sense to
>>>make a ranking with the Elo for totally different species. MEPHISTO ROMA has
>>>nothing to do with JUNIOR 7. Besides that they both play chess. But where is the
>>>point for comparisons?
>>
>>i've played a tournament games against a GMs rated 2697.i've often played
>>first-round games in opens against beginners with a 1600 rating. it all counts
>>for my rating... why do you need to make up special rules for computer ratings
>>if we don't need it for human ratings?
>>
>>aloha
>>  martin
>
>Hi martin,
>  To establish an elo, or a winner at a tournament, equal hardware is certainly
>not required. Only wins, losses and draws, of course.
>
>What Rolf and I object to is testing/competing with a chess program on vastly
>different hardware, and then saying - "Yep that MyChess program has an elo of
>only 1242 - just lousy." (or whatever results are thus claimed, good or bad.)

that is of course a really bad conclusion :-)
all the same - i find it interesting to measure how much better a program
running on today's machine is compared to "ye olde days". this mchess 4 or 5 on
my 486DX66 really kicked my butt & i like to see it lose :-)

aloha
  martin



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