Author: Eduard Nemeth
Date: 04:11:12 09/14/02
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On September 14, 2002 at 07:03:32, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>On September 14, 2002 at 06:38:34, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>
>>On September 14, 2002 at 04:06:05, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>Here is some analysis after 22...Qxa2 23.Rd7
>>>
>>>You can see that old Deep Fritz still see a clear advantage for black(1.09
>>>pawns)
>>>Qb3 is not forced and it may be interesting to have better analysis by better
>>>hardware(I used P850 128 mbytes hash tables)
>>>
>>>When I clicked next best Deep Fritz told me 23...b5 -1.03/14
>>>
>>>G.Kasparov - Genius3
>>>[D]r4rk1/1p1R2bp/p1p3p1/8/6Q1/4BP1P/qP3P2/5RK1 b - - 0 1
>>>
>>>Analysis by Deep Fritz:
>>>
>>>23...Qxb2!
>>> -+ (-1.69) Depth: 1/4 00:00:00
>>>23...Qxb2!
>>> -+ (-2.69) Depth: 1/4 00:00:00
>>>23...Qxb2--
>>> -+ (-2.38) Depth: 2/6 00:00:00
>>>23...Qxb2-- 24.Rfd1
>>> -+ (-2.28) Depth: 2/6 00:00:00
>>>23...Qxb2 24.Rfd1 Qe2
>>> -+ (-2.38) Depth: 3/11 00:00:00
>>>23...Qxb2 24.Rfd1 Qe2 25.Qe6+ Kh8
>>> -+ (-2.41) Depth: 4/12 00:00:00 2kN
>>>23...Qxb2 24.Rfd1 Rae8 25.Bc5 Rf7
>>> -+ (-2.28) Depth: 5/16 00:00:00 10kN
>>>23...Qxb2 24.Rfd1 Rae8 25.Bc5 Rf5 26.Bd4
>>> -+ (-2.31) Depth: 6/18 00:00:00 24kN
>>>23...Qxb2 24.Rfd1 Rae8 25.Bc5 Rf5 26.Bd4 Bxd4 27.R1xd4 Re1+ 28.Kg2
>>> -+ (-2.34) Depth: 7/18 00:00:00 109kN
>>>23...Qxb2 24.Qc4+ Kh8 25.Qh4 Rg8 26.Rfd1 Qe2 27.R1d2 Qe1+ 28.Kg2
>>> -+ (-2.22) Depth: 8/20 00:00:00 243kN
>>>23...Qxb2 24.Qc4+ Kh8 25.Qh4 Qf6 26.Qxf6 Bxf6 27.Rxb7 Be5 28.Rc1 Rxf3 29.Rxc6
>>> -+ (-2.06) Depth: 9/24 00:00:01 655kN
>>>23...Qxb2 24.Qc4+ Kh8 25.Qh4 Qf6 26.Qxf6 Bxf6 27.Rxb7 Be5 28.f4 Bxf4 29.Rfb1
>>> -+ (-1.91) Depth: 10/25 00:00:03 2038kN
>>>23...Qxb2 24.Qc4+ Kh8 25.Qh4 Qf6 26.Qxf6 Bxf6 27.Rxb7 Be5 28.Kg2 Rab8 29.Rfb1
>>> -+ (-1.81) Depth: 11/28 00:00:09 6045kN
>>>23...Qb3!
>>> -+ (-1.84) Depth: 11/28 00:00:15 10154kN
>>>23...Qb3! 24.Rfd1 Rae8 25.Bc5 Rf5 26.Rd8 Qe6 27.b3 Rxd8 28.Rxd8+ Kf7 29.b4
>>> -+ (-1.88) Depth: 11/31 00:00:18 11995kN
>>>23...Qb3 24.Rfd1 Rae8 25.Bc5 Rf5 26.Rd8 Qe6 27.b4 Be5 28.R8d7 Qb3 29.Kg2
>>> -+ (-1.88) Depth: 12/30 00:00:38 25999kN
>>>23...Qb3 24.Rfd1 Rae8 25.Bc5 Rf5 26.Rd8 Qe6 27.Qb4 Rg5+ 28.Kh2 Be5+ 29.f4
>>> -+ (-1.81) Depth: 13/33 00:01:32 62914kN
>>>23...Qb3 24.Rfd1 Rae8 25.Bc5 Rf5 26.Rd8 Qe6 27.Qb4 Rg5+ 28.Kh2 Be5+ 29.f4
>>> -+ (-1.81) Depth: 14/35 00:05:57 245638kN
>>>23...Qb3--
>>> -+ (-1.50) Depth: 15/37 00:12:09 503811kN
>>>23...Qb3--
>>> -+ (-1.50) Depth: 15/39 00:19:57 828708kN
>>>23...Qb3 24.Rfd1 Rae8 25.R1d6 Rf7 26.Rd3 Qe6 27.Qxe6 Rxe6 28.Rd8+
>>> -+ (-1.50) Depth: 16/39 00:54:30 2275419kN
>>>23...Qb3 24.Rfd1 Rae8 25.Kg2 Rf5 26.R1d6 Bf6 27.Bd4 Rg5
>>> µ (-1.25) Depth: 17/43 02:12:05 5421062kN
>>>23...Qb3 24.Rfd1 Rae8 25.Kg2 Rf5 26.R1d6 Bf6 27.Bd4 Rg5 28.Bxf6 Rxg4+
>>> µ (-1.09) Depth: 18/44 05:37:25 14023835kN
>>>
>>>(blass, tel-aviv 14.09.2002)
>>>
>>>Here is the first position when it was claimed in the winboard forum that
>>>Genius3 blundered
>>>
>>>[D]r4rk1/1p4bp/p1p3p1/3q4/6Q1/4BP1P/PP3P2/3R1RK1 b - - 0 22
>>>
>>>I am not sure if Qxf3 is better because after Qxf3 Rd7 Qxg4 hxg4 Rf7 Rfd1 it
>>>seems that white has rook on the 7th for the pawn and white may have enough
>>>compensation to draw.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>
>>Hello URI!
>>
>>Here the game with the comment from IM Hertneck:
>>
>>
>>[Event "3/95-39 WDR Köln"]
>>[Site "?"]
>>[Date "1995.??.??"]
>>[Round "?"]
>>[White "Kasparov,G"]
>>[Black "Pentium Genius"]
>>[ECO "D15"]
>>[Result "1-0"]
>>
>>1. c4 c6 2. d4 d5 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. Nc3 a6 5. c5 g6 6. Bf4 Bg7
>>7. h3 O-O 8. e3 Nbd7 9. Bd3 Ne8 (9... Re8 $6 10. Bh2 Nh5
>>11. g4 Nhf6 12. Rc1 {verhindert e5 (Kasparov-Kudrin, Tel
>>Aviv Simultan 1994)}) 10. Rc1 (10. O-O Nc7 11. Bg3 Re8
>>12. Bh4 Bf6 13. Bxf6 exf6 14. e4 Nf8 15. Re1 Be6 16. Qd2
>>Qd7 17. exd5 Bxd5 {van Wely-Paunovic, Hania 1993}) 10... f6
>>11. e4 e5 12. dxe5 Nxc5 13. exd5 fxe5 14. Be3 (14. Bxe5
>>Bxe5 15. Nxe5 Qg5 $19) 14... Nxd3+ 15. Qxd3 e4 16. Qxe4
>>(16. Nxe4 Bf5 17. d6 Qa5+ 18. Nfd2 Qxa2 {unklar}) 16... Nf6
>>17. Qc4 Nxd5 18. Nxd5 (18. O-O Bxh3 $5 19. Ng5 Bf5 20. Rfd1
>>Bxc3 21. Rxc3 h6 22. Nf3 Kh7 {unklar}) 18... Be6 19. O-O
>>Bxd5 20. Qg4 Bxf3 21. gxf3 Qd5 {_} 22. Rcd1 Qxa2 $2
>>(22... Qxf3) (22... Qxf3) 23. Rd7 Rf7 (23... Qb3 $5 24. Bd4
>>Bxd4 25. Qxd4 Rf7) (23... Qxb2 24. Qc4+ Kh8 25. Rxg7
>>(25. Qh4 g5) 25... Qxg7 26. Bd4 Rf6 27. Qc3 Raf8 28. Re1
>>Qf7) 24. Rfd1 Qb3 $2 (24... Qxb2 $4 25. Rxf7 Kxf7 26. Qc4+
>>{nebst Matt}) (24... Re8 {hält die Stellung. Genius spielt
>>diesen Zug nach 8,5 min} 25. Rxf7 Qxf7 26. Rd7 h5 $1
>>27. Rxf7 hxg4 28. Rxb7 gxf3 {und Weiß hat noch Probleme.})
>>25. R1d3 Qxb2 {_} (25... Qa2 26. b3 Rxd7 27. Qxd7 Rf8
>>28. Qe6+ Kh8 29. Rd7 {und Weiß steht etwas besser})
>>26. Qc4 $3 (26. Rxf7 Qb1+ 27. Kg2 Qxd3 28. Rxb7 {Mit
>>Vorteil für Schwarz}) 26... Raf8 (26... Qf6 27. Rxb7 Raf8
>>28. Rdd7 Qxf3 29. Bc5 h6 {und Weiß braucht einen
>>Gewinnplan}) 27. Rxf7 Rxf7 28. Rd8+ Bf8 29. Bh6 Qa3 {_}
>>30. Qe6 $1 Qc5 31. h4 Qb4 32. f4 Qb1+ 33. Kh2 Qb4
>>34. Kg2 $1 (34. f5 $4 Qxh4+) 34... Qa3 35. h5 gxh5 36. f5
>>Qb4 37. Rxf8+ Qxf8 38. Bxf8 Kxf8 39. f6 Rxf6 (39... Kg8
>>40. Kg3 c5 41. Kh4 c4 42. Kxh5 c3 43. Qg4+ Kh8 44. Qc8+ Rf8
>>45. Qxf8#) 1-0
>>
>>The losing move was 24...Qxb2?
>>
>>After 24...Re8! =+ black have a draw...
>>
>>Comment: 24... Re8 hält die Stellung. Genius spielt
>>diesen Zug nach 8,5 min.
>>
>>Comment english , free: "On a P90, Genius 3 needs 8,5 Minutes to find 24...Re8!
>>to play it!"
>>
>>[D]r5k1/1p1R1rbp/p1p3p1/8/6Q1/4BP1P/qP3P2/3R2K1 b - -
>>
>> Now Re8 with draw!
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Eduard
>
>
>On my P600 , Genius 65 played here Re8 !! after 1:58 min. (with 32 MB hash).
>
>Genius 3 Engine have under MCS only 2 MB hash an can also not find this strong
>move. Under DOS with 31 MB hash I think, he do it !
>
>Eduard
Neue Partie
r5k1/1p1R1rbp/p1p3p1/8/6Q1/4BP1P/qP3P2/3R2K1 b - - 0 1
Analysis by Fritz 7:
1...Db3 2.T1d3 Dxb2 3.Dc4 Da1+ 4.Kg2 Df6 5.Txb7 Taf8 6.Tdd7
µ (-1.19) Tiefe: 11/33 00:00:45 14133kN
1...Te8!
µ (-1.22) Tiefe: 11/33 00:00:48 15024kN
1...Te8!
µ (-1.38) Tiefe: 11/33 00:00:50 15862kN
1...Te8 2.Txf7 Dxf7 3.Td7 Te7 4.Td8+ Lf8 5.Lc5 Te1+ 6.Kg2 Te8 7.Td7 h5
µ (-1.38) Tiefe: 12/35 00:01:28 28125kN
1...Te8 2.Txf7 Dxf7 3.Td7 Te7 4.Td8+ Lf8 5.Lh6 Te8 6.Td7 Db3 7.Dh4 De6 8.Txb7
µ (-1.19) Tiefe: 13/33 00:02:17 44774kN
(Nemeth, Stuttgart 14.09.2002)
Yes, Re8! and white must fighting for a draw!
Eduard
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