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Subject: Re: 1. chess system tal win95 - chess tiger 11.5

Author: Keith Ian Price

Date: 12:45:08 08/22/98

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On August 22, 1998 at 13:55:49, Thorsten Czub wrote:

>On August 22, 1998 at 13:42:35, blass uri wrote:
>
>>>to be continued...
>>chess system tal is winning
>>I see no defence for black after 23.Qa5 Re8 24.Ng5 and if f6 25.Ne4
>>and if 24...f5  25.Qc3
>>
>>chess system tal and crafty are the surprising programs in this tournament.
>
>I have sent an email to bob to help me with the decision
>which version to use from now on.
>15.17 or 15.18.
>I am not sure if 15.18 is good, so i better ask him.
>15.17 has played very good so far and the rule for tournaments is:
>"never change a winning horse..."
>
>>I do not understand the results because I believed mark young that
>>chess system tal is a weak program.
>
>I have no idea (without attacking mark) on which results or games or settings
>he came to that results.
>
>I have very good results. Also the win95 version is improved in relation to the
>dos version. The cd-version has definetely a bug. We have posted this and also
>therefore put a fixed version (cstblack) on the server.
>I don't see how you can get weak results, if you use this version.
>Of course - if you use a weaker version, or strange settings.

Most of us are forced to use the weaker version, as there is no CSTBlack on any
server, and some who promise to e-mail it if contacted by e-mail, do not reply.

:-(((

Perhaps someone who works for, but is not an employee of, chrisw could send a
copy to chrisw for placement back on the server, as he says he also does not
have a copy of this wonder version. :-)


>I know chris e.g. plays sometimes on ICC, as bruce said. But the problem
>with chris is, he always uses the latest version.
>As we all know, bob has also made some lessons in LATEST VERSIONS on a
>tournament (paris !!), using a latest version can be sometimes very
>contraproductive. If bruce believes cstal general strength is that of a broken
>version, or of a weaker version, he or you or mark young cannot
>come to the right results.

Please do your best to ensure that the strong version is released on the CD this
time. It will save you a lot of explanation. ;-)

>Also cstal has not fought against most strong programs. We have to wait...
>Remember in Paris cstal started also very very strong, and than was unable to
>get a point in the last rounds...
>
>BTW: i am in the 34th move and tiger said: Je suis mat en 9, which means: I am
>mate in 9...
>looks like the game is over in a few moves...
>
>So - the surprising results of cstal here reminds me on the same behaviour in
>Paris, where it also scored very strong in the beginning.
>
>Maybe we should not overestimate this.
>There are strong opponents to fight against...
>
>
>
>>Is it a new version of chess system tal that mark young does not have?
>>
>>Uri



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