Author: Jonas Cohonas
Date: 10:39:53 09/15/02
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On September 15, 2002 at 13:13:44, Thorsten Czub wrote: >On September 15, 2002 at 13:03:14, Jonas Cohonas wrote: > >>Rolf you are getting a bit carried away here, if shredder or it's book makes a >>bad move you should not blame thorsten for it, the only thing you could argue >>here is the validity of publishing such a game in terms of accuracy. >> >>BTW i have read your posts for a while now and it seems you are looking for >>mistakes no matter who posts, do you have some past issues that was left >>unfinished? >> >>Regards >>Jonas > >the method of playing autoplayer matches for finding out about strength >is not MY method. i call this bean counting. but many people, and some >programmers too, like this method. > >therefore for THEM it is only a prove when you have autoplayer data. > >i do prefer game examples, where you can show a special feature. > >rolf is forgetting that my article (he obviously quotes out) is >full of examples what i have done and especially >with examples where rebel played in default mode and my macheide-style is >playing from the same position. > >he forgets all the other information, picks out a game that he likes to >choose as an example, and comes with mud. > >thats typical. > >when i present NO autoplayer material, people piss on it because >its not statistical verified. when i come with autoplayer games/data, >they piss on it because of whatever mistakes. > >some say i would not post ALL games (chessfun), rolf complaints THAT >i do post all games. > >don't you see what is going on here. > >you post something to keep people and fans / freaks informed about a new >style , a new program that plays good, and few people piss on it. > >Why ? > >i think they piss on it because of personal problems. >It's not the data you post, it YOU that is the problem for them. > >You could post the telephone-book of NY and they would complain about. > >this way they destroy computerchess IMO. because nobody wants to post anymore >anything interesting because those people piss on it whatever you do. > >I have seen this here in this forum for a long time. > >it happens to bob hyatt too. > >its a kind of personal fight. >the content is not important. >its the history of mud throwing that was in rgcc and here in CCC long time >ago. > >its not about computerchess- or human behaviour. its how dogs >behave ... > >if it would be about computerchess, there would be content in it. Personally i appreciate your effort, not many people want's to go through the trials and tribulations of developing a new style (that be CM, rebel, no one even came up with one for fritz 7 or Hiarcs 8 that i know of). I also agree that following the games are an important part of testing, i personally gain a lot of info on how an engine are playing from doing just that, not just from the results and the #'s. So i say keep up the good work, i am sure the same people criticizing your work, will ask for the settings at some point ;) Regards Jonas
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