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Subject: Re: round#5: game 4: junior5 beta - fritz5.03

Author: blass uri

Date: 15:10:05 08/22/98

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On August 22, 1998 at 17:50:56, Thorsten Czub wrote:

>The game looks like a classical example game for the fritz5.03
>draw-bug problem. Fritz loses it, and has strange draw bugs and idiotic
>main-lines. I will post the pgn-export of junior and fritz later, that you can
>see it yourself. Also you see that wherever these draw-evaluations appear, fritz
>is not coming much deep.
>This seems to be a system-immanant problem...
>Why is this ? I mean, thats exactly what I always say: at my home fritz loses in
>strange draw-score games, where it behaves like i have seen it in paris.
>
>I wonder that other people do not have those games...
>
>so if we estimate that junior wins, and it looks like, than we would get this
>results in round #5 so far:
>
> 1. CSTAL WIN95,             (6) - (12) CHESS TIGER 11.5,        1:0
> 2. CRAFTY 15.17,           (22) - (2)  HIARCS6,
> 3. MCHESS 7.1,              (1) - (23) ZARKOV 4.2C,             1:0
> 4. JUNIOR5 BETA JUN.CTG,    (5) - (4)  FRITZ 5.03 POWER.CTG,    1:0
> 5. REBEL 9,                 (3) - (13) CHESS TIGER 11.2,
> 6. GENIUS5,                 (8) - (21) COMET A95,
> 7. NIMZO98 PADERBORN,      (14) - (17) CHESSMASTER 5555,
> 8. VIRTUAL2,                (9) - (7)  CHESSMASTER 5000,
> 9. WCHESS 1.04,            (18) - (16) DIAMOND 2,
>10. DIEP 1.58.13,           (10) - (24) SOCRATES X,              1:0
>11. EUGEN 7.5,              (15) - (19) DIOGENES 4.70,           1:0
>12. CAISSA98 5.10,          (20) - (11) PHALANX,                 0:1
>
>   1   CSTAL WIN95, (6)               4.0        7   12½  3
> 2-5   CHESS TIGER 11.5, (12)         3.5       10   16   3
>       CRAFTY 15.17, (22)             3.5(1)     8½  13   3
>       MCHESS 7.1, (1)                3.5        7   12   3
>       JUNIOR5 BETA JUN.CTG, (5)      3.5        6½  12   3
> 6-7   HIARCS6, (2)                   3.0(1)     8   13½  2
>       ZARKOV 4.2C, (23)              3.0        7½  12½  3
>   8   CHESS TIGER 11.2, (13)         2.5(1)     7   12½  1
> 9-19  FRITZ 5.03 POWER.CTG, (4)      2.0        8   13½  0
>       DIEP 1.58.13, (10)             2.0        7½  12½  2
>       REBEL 9, (3)                   2.0(1)     6½  11½  1
>       COMET A95, (21)                2.0(1)     6½  10   2
>       CHESSMASTER 5555, (17)         2.0(1)     6   12   0
>       NIMZO98 PADERBORN, (14)        2.0(1)     6   11½  1
>       GENIUS5, (8)                   2.0(1)     6   10   1
>       WCHESS 1.04, (18)              2.0(1)     5½  11   1
>       VIRTUAL2, (9)                  2.0(1)     5    9   2
>       PHALANX, (11)                  2.0        5    8   1
>       EUGEN 7.5, (15)                2.0        4½   8½  2
>20-22  CHESSMASTER 5000, (7)          1.5(1)     7   12   1
>       DIAMOND 2, (16)                1.5(1)     6    9½  1
>       SOCRATES X, (24)               1.5        6    9   1
>   23  DIOGENES 4.70, (19)            1.0        6    9½  1
>   24  CAISSA98 5.10, (20)            0.0        5½   8½  0
>
>this is the standings so far...
>
>I will - as i said, post this day the game junior-fritz5.
>In the moment Fritz says -2.09 and junior says +2.72...
>
>I am happy that this games happens. Because I can show you in example
>what i mean when i talk about this draw-score-bug phnemomena in fritz...
>i hope you can all reproduce it on your machines and than we can analyse WHY...
>this happens...

I thought you said you will repeat the game between chesstiger11.4 and Rebel
with the right book
and if this is the case then they have one more game to complete.

Uri



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