Author: Ed Schröder
Date: 15:00:59 09/15/02
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On September 15, 2002 at 07:59:42, Rolf Tueschen wrote: >From the Macheide XP tuning games of Thorsten I found the following game. NB >that I did _not_ select the game. It was the first I played. Now I will take a >closer look. > >The game [read the article in Computerschachwelt]: > >Shredder 6 - XP Machëide x2cou_51 >40 Moves in 120 min; 20 Moves in 60 min auto232 match, 400mhz (3), 13.09.2002 > >1.d4 book 0s 1...Nf6 1:27m 2.c4 book 0s 2...e6 5s 3.Nc3 book 0s 3...Bb4 2s 4.e3 >book 0s 4...0-0 3s 5.Bd3 book 0s 5...d5 3s 6.cxd5 book 0s 6...exd5 2s 7.Nge2 >book 0s 7...Re8 2s 8.0-0 book 0s 8...Bd6 3s 9.f3 book 0s 9...c5 2s 10.Qe1 book >0s 10...Nc6 3s 11.Qh4 book 0s 11...Be7 4s 12.dxc5 -0.15/13 10:06m 12...Bxc5 >5:30m 13.Nd4 -0.15/13 0s 13...Bd7 3:37m (Ne5) 14.Nxd5 -0.03/13 9:32m 14...Nxd5 >43s 15.Qxh7+ -0.01/13 3:47m 15...Kf8 6s 16.Qh8+ -0.37/13 7:09m 16...Ke7 4s >17.Qxg7 -1.08/12 5:04m 17...Rg8 8:11m 18.Qh7 -1.64/12 0s 18...Nxd4 15:04m >19.exd4 -1.73/13 0s 19...Bxd4+ 2:25m 20.Kh1 -1.73/13 0s 20...Be6 5:47m 21.Re1 >-1.88/11 5:58m 21...Kd6 5s (Qb6) 22.Qe4 -1.70/11 6:51m 22...Qf6 4s 23.Rf1 >-3.51/9 12:55m 23...Rxg2 4:02m 24.Kxg2 -9.03/11 7:48m 24...Rg8+ 4s 0-1 > >Now my questions: > >1. Could someone tell me where exactly the books end? >2. Also could someone explain why Rebel played his book moves with different >times? >3. As a general question, does someone know if besides book cooking there can be >operator or tester tuning and if yes please with an example? >4. In my eyes we have a book cooking in the example above. Shredder ends with >Qh4, is that right? >5. The cook is Be7, right? >6. Look at the position after 13...Bd7. Could I give you this position to be >examined with your favorite progs? Who plays Nxd5? I already checked that FRITZ >7 does not play Nxd5. It's clear that Black gets a tempo with Rg8 and then can >take on d4. >7. Could someone explain how K-safety could be involved in this special game? >Black takes he risk of a wandering K to d6 and White is "safe" behind his pawns. >Why Shredder, the multi-time Wch cannot see that the open g-file brings storm >for his K? > >Without exact answers to y questions I can't decide what is going on in the >game. But to quote a sentence by Ed Schroder in yesterday's CTF, as you know Ed >has retired from computerchess programming, I can smell a rat in this game. >Someone looks as if perfectly pre-arranged. >Who can find the evidence? Depends on the $$$$$$$ reward :-) But seriously, this is quite some game. Rebel sat a nice trap (13...Bd7) and the opponent felt for it, too bad. The default settings plays 13...Bd7 too. About pre-arranging games, anybody can do it, play xxx games, delete yyy lost games from the PGN output and post the remaining. The SSDF can do, all the super-chess-freaks playing their valuable tournaments can do it, and and and. In the end it all comes down if you trust the poster. Science is nice, but how does one scientifically proof someone is lying? Maybe you want to connect Thorsten to the lie detector? Thorsten, do I hear you volunteer? Ed >Rolf Tueschen
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