Author: Thorsten Czub
Date: 17:14:35 08/22/98
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On August 22, 1998 at 18:10:05, blass uri wrote: >>I am happy that this games happens. Because I can show you in example >>what i mean when i talk about this draw-score-bug phnemomena in fritz... >>i hope you can all reproduce it on your machines and than we can analyse WHY... >>this happens... > >I thought you said you will repeat the game between chesstiger11.4 and Rebel >with the right book >and if this is the case then they have one more game to complete. ? No - the game vs. tiger was in an earlier round... I don't want to repeat this game, also the game was not lost because of the opening IMO. >Uri PGN - game: [Event "summer-tournament"] [Site "k6/200 40/120"] [Date "1998.08.23"] [Round "5"] [White "Junior5 beta 16bit"] [Black "Fritz5.03 power.ctg"] [Result "1-0"] 1. c4 Nf6 2. d4 e6 3. Nf3 c5 4. d5 exd5 5. cxd5 d6 6. Nc3 g6 7. Nd2 Nbd7 8. e4 Bg7 9. Be2 O-O 10. O-O Re8 11. a4 Ne5 12. Ra3 g5 13. Re1 a6 14. Nf1 h6 15. Ne3 Ng6 16. Qc2 Nf4 17. Bf3 b6 18. Nc4 N4xd5 19. Nxd5 Nxd5 20. Qd1 Nb4 21. Nxd6 Re7 22. e5 Rb8 23. Rae3 Be6 24. b3 Qc7 25. Bb2 Rd7 26. Qb1 Rbd8 27. Be4 Nd5 28. Rf3 Nf4 29. Bh7+ Kh8 30. Bf5 Qa7 31. h4 Qc7 32. hxg5 hxg5 33. Bc1 Bxf5 34. Qxf5 Re7 35. Bxf4 Rxd6 36. exd6 Rxe1+ 37. Kh2 Qd8 38. Qxf7 g4 39. Qh5+ Kg8 40. Qxg4 Re4 41. Rg3 Qf6 42. Qc8+ Kh7 43. Bg5 Qxd6 44. Qf5+ Kg8 45. Qxe4 Qe5 46. Qg4 Qd6 47. Bc1 Qxg3+ 48. Kxg3 Kf8 49. Qe6 Bf6 50. Qxf6+ Ke8 51. Bg5 Kd7 52. Qe7+ Kc6 53. Qe6+ Kb7 54. Bd8 Ka8 55. Qc6+ Kb8 56. Bxb6 a5 57. Qc7+ Ka8 58. Qc8# 1-0 evaluations : please recognize that fritz has diametral scores than junior has, and that is has many draw-range scores... Than it suddenly sees the problems and scores almost equal to junior. IMO these draw scores are the problem why fritz loses. The whole tree seems to misevaluate wrong, does not come deep in the tree and as a result of those wrong tree, the games-turns arround. Whenever fritz loses/draws on my machines, i have these draw situations. They normally come very often, are not only ONE move, they happen many moves. In paris this was the same. What is fritz doing in those draw-areas ?!? [Event "summer-tournament"] [Site "k6/200 40/120"] [Date "1998.08.23"] [Round "5"] [White "Junior5 beta 16bit"] [Black "Fritz5.03 power.ctg"] [Result "1-0"] 1. c4 Nf6 2. d4 e6 3. Nf3 c5 4. d5 exd5 5. cxd5 d6 6. Nc3 g6 7. Nd2 Nbd7 8. e4 Bg7 9. Be2 O-O 10. O-O Re8 11. a4 Ne5 12. Ra3 g5 13. Re1 0,42 a6 14. Nf1 0,41 h6 15. Ne3 0,37 Ng6 16. Qc2 0,44 Nf4 0.03 draw score 17. Bf3 0,44 b6 0.09 arround draw 18. Nc4 0,51 N4xd5 0.03 draw score 19. Nxd5 0,58 Nxd5 +0.19 PLUS score !!!! 20. Qd1 0,71 Nb4 0.00 again draw score 21. Nxd6 0,57 Re7 0.03 draw score 22. e5 0,56 Rb8 +0.25 plus score 23. Rae3 0,13 Be6 +0.34 plus score 24. b3 0,15 Qc7 +0.53 plus score 25. Bb2 0,28 Rd7 +0.28 plus score 26. Qb1 0,27 Rbd8 +0.41 plus score 27. Be4 0,55 Nd5 +0.19 plus score 28. Rf3 0,66 Nf4 +0.28 plus score 29. Bh7+ 0,55 Kh8 0.00 draw score 30. Bf5 0,43 Qa7 0.00 draw score 31. h4 0,78 Qc7 -0.88 game-over ! 32. hxg5 1,59 hxg5 -1.44 33. Bc1 1,71 Bxf5 -1.66 34. Qxf5 2,46 Re7 -2.06 35. Bxf4 3,01 Rxd6 -2.38 36. exd6 3,12 Rxe1+ -4.19 37. Kh2 1,36 Qd8 -5.16 38. Qxf7 6,15 g4 -5.66 39. Qh5+ 6,77 Kg8 -6.75 40. Qxg4 6,67 Re4 -6.63 41. Rg3 6,75 Qf6 -6.78 42. Qc8+ Kh7 43. Bg5 Qxd6 44. Qf5+ Kg8 45. Qxe4 Qe5 46. Qg4 Qd6 47. Bc1 Qxg3+ 48. Kxg3 Kf8 49. Qe6 Bf6 50. Qxf6+ Ke8 51. Bg5 Kd7 52. Qe7+ Kc6 53. Qe6+ Kb7 54. Bd8 Ka8 55. Qc6+ Kb8 56. Bxb6 a5 57. Qc7+ Ka8 58. Qc8# 1-0
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