Author: Brian Katz
Date: 09:28:02 09/16/02
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On September 16, 2002 at 10:55:40, Terry McCracken wrote: >On September 16, 2002 at 10:40:21, Brian Katz wrote: > >>On September 16, 2002 at 10:18:56, Terry McCracken wrote: >> >>>On September 16, 2002 at 09:01:53, Brian Katz wrote: >>> >>>>On September 16, 2002 at 07:30:20, mike schoonover wrote: >>>> >>>>>brian, >>>>>there where posts either here or on winboard forum concerning >>>>>fritz weak play after upgrade.this was relativly recent. >>>>>try posting your question on wb forum.as i recall >>>>>there was a fix or something. >>>>>sorry i cant remember more. >>>>>mike >>>> >>>>Thank you for the reply. >>>>After reading one of the earlier posts on the possibility that the most recent >>>>Fritz 7 upgrade may have caused engine strength reduction, and noticing poor >>>>play myself, I uninstalled Deep-Fritz 7. I had multiple copies of the previous >>>>upgraded Fritz 7 engines. However, it was Deep-Fritz 7 that I had noticed the >>>>poor play with. So, when I completely uninstalled Deep-Fritz 7, I let the >>>>uninstall take the Deep-Fritz 7 engine with it. When I reinstalled the >>>>Deep-Fritz 7 program, I then had a brand new Deep-Fritz 7 engine and program >>>>interface. I chose not to try the newest upgrade, yet I still had the result >>>>that I included with my recent post. A HORRIBLE game. >>>>I can't blame the poor play on the upgrade, when I have a freshly installed >>>>Deep-Fritz 7 engine and program. >>>>In engine tournaments run on my single Processor PC using only one computer, >>>>Fritz 7 was out performing Deep-Fritz 7 or coming out even in various time >>>>controls. This was before I tried any upgrades after first installing the DF7 >>>>program which I received 2 weeks ago. >>>> >>>>It appears that we are being lied to when they say that DF7 is stronger than F7 >>>>even if only a single processor is used. >>>>If you remember, the same thing was said of Deep Fritz as compared to Fritz 6. >>>>( "Increased endgame knowledge and increased positional play") I find it odd >>>>that they would use the same exact wording for this advertisement, yet I still >>>>bought it, pardon the pun. >>>>Perhaps it should be called Deep-Putz 7. >>>>All replies welcome and looked forward to. >>>>Regards >>>>Brian >>> >>>Deep Putz! ROTFL! >>> >>>Commercial firms are full of hype! Yes there has been modifications to Deep >>>Fritz 7 but they really may only help on a multi-processor system. >>> >>>Sure "knowledge" was added but it in reality may hurt on a single processor >>>system. >>> >>>One would think not, and ChessBase didn't exactly lie, but went with more >>>knowledge added, but without proof most likely it would play better than >>>Fritz 7 on one CPU. >>> >>>Terry >> Thank you for the reply Terry! >>Perhaps you can answer this question for me. >>What is the Fritz 7 Update for now that Deep-Fritz 7 is out? >>Is it for the Fritz 7 program (interface and or engine) or is it for the >>Deep-Fritz 7 program (interface and or engine)? >>The last 3 or 4 Fritz 7 upgrades only seemed to be for the interface. >>Early on when Fritz 7 came out there were many engine versions from Fritz 7 >>upgrades. >>When Fritz 6 came out there were a number of Fritz 6 upgrades ( Fritz 6e) and >>others, but I never saw ONE for the Deep-Fritz program, ever. >>Will Fritz 7 upgrades effect the Deep-Fritz engines. >>I know it will effect the interface as the DATE in the help menu will reflect >>this. >>As an experiment months ago, I put the Fritz 6 upgrade over the Fritz 7 program >>and it change the date to that of Fritz 6. >>My main concern is the playing engines. >>As I said above, I never saw a Deep-Fritz upgrade since DF has been on the >>market for purchase even though there were numerous ones for F6. >>Now there have been numerous ones for Fritz 7, and I wonder if there will ever >>be any for the Deep-Fritz 7 program and engines. >>I look forward to all replies. >>Thanks again Terry >>Regards >>Brian > >As far as I can tell the updates both English and German are for Fritz 7 only >with the latest, at the ChessBase site dated June 9. There are some interface >debugging, some newer DGT drivers and the latest Fritz engine, 7.0.0.8 but >nothing for Deep Fritz 7. At least I can't find an upgrade for Deep Fritz 7. > >Regards, > Terry Is the June 9 date for the engine or for the Interface? When I went onto the Playchess server with the Deep Fritz 7 Interface, ( I uninstalled all of my other program interfaces....Shredder 6, Hiarcs 8, Fritz 6, Deep Fritz, Fritz 7 and kept the engines) the Playchess server prompted me for the upgrade anyway. The interface now gives the New date of Sept 6 2002 in the help menu "About Deep Fritz 7" My latest Fritz 7 upgrade shows a May 19 modification date. Regards Brian
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