Author: Dann Corbit
Date: 15:15:09 09/16/02
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On September 16, 2002 at 17:38:42, Rolf Tueschen wrote: >On September 16, 2002 at 17:01:13, Dann Corbit wrote: > >>On September 16, 2002 at 15:53:06, Rolf Tueschen wrote: >>[snip] >>>NB please that I did never say he faked or cheated data. All I said was: These >>>30 games including the five games I posted could_not_ show something relevant >>>about this styled Rebel. >> >>What then, was the meaning of the thread title: >>"How people could detect if a game was cooked?" >> >>Sounds like an accusation to me. Certainly in the context of the material you >>posted, I do not see how it could be interpreted otherwise. >>[snip] > >I'm a bit astonished by such a tone here, Dann. Now I must explain the English >meaning to you. It's sad. > >To answer your question I remind you of the point that I originally _thought_ >that Thorsten posted or quoted the games, because they should "prove" or show >that the created new style played "stronger" than the default version. My >question was if such games, my 5 examples, could do that successfully. I thought >'No'! If you doubt my original opinion then why these games were posted at all? >They stood in context of Thorsten's claim that his style was stronger against >Shredder ans so on. But the games don't prove it. > >I found that the games contained a cook against Shredder. Explanation: because >the Shredder book contained the weak line. What should this prove about the >Macheide style??? Nothing IMO. > >I asked a scientifically interesting (for me!!) question how people, I meant >all, could detect such cookes games in testing. Because it made the tests weaker >by definition! (Would you now doubt my scientific interest I showed from my >first posting on? Either about SSDF or the DB2 team.) > >Note that I did NOT think that _Thorsten_ cooked these games!!!! > >They are cooked because of the opening book. And I thought I had made a valuable >_discovery_. Just by playing through the lines. I found the examples. > >Please do not lay bad intentions into my mouth when they definitely are not >there! > >Of course I thought that it was a bad thing for Thorsten to post these games, >but I did never even _insinuate_ that he tried to _cheat_ with them. For what >purpose should he have done it??? > >I repeat I found the cooks and asked a question "how people could detect such >cooks". Please stop pushing me in corners where my honest questions should look >like the insults, Thorsten read in them. There are no insults! > >Please give a short correction here if it's understood by now what the meaning >was. Thank you. > >It's important for me because Thorsten already wrote about my intentions to >destroy and so on. This is most insultive for me. Perhaps much of the problem is with language interpretation. I certainly have not read all the messages in this thread nor do I intend to (as they are relatively uninteresting to me). It seemed from the context of what I read that you were accusing Thorsten of something. Perhaps if I had read all the messages in the thread, I might have thought otherwise. As far as breaking someone else's book, I think it is a very good idea and everyone ought to do it. After all, that advances the theory of chess doesn't it? And the best time to do the breaking is always "right now" so that it occurs during testing and not during a contest. I do wish that you could take whatever sort of a squabble you have with Thorsten to private email. Being intrinsically lazy, I don't want to have to deal with it.
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