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Subject: Re: drivers (off topic)

Author: Andrew Williams

Date: 05:06:21 09/17/02

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On September 16, 2002 at 18:50:38, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On September 16, 2002 at 05:08:42, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
>
>>On September 15, 2002 at 22:57:40, Peter Skinner wrote:
>>
>>>Once again your shooting yourself in the foot blaming Windows, or Windows based
>>>drivers. The drivers for your motherboard are _exactly_ the same for Windows or
>>>for Linux.
>>
>>Apparently not. In Linux everything works perfectly. In Windows it does
>>not. It is as simple as that.
>>
>>--
>>GCP
>
>I'm always amazed by seeing linux freaks post that their free
>non-helpdesked OS is so good and supporting everything.
>
>If i boot linux my problem is
>  - my network card isn't supported by default, in windows it is
>    a network card that's produced by the millions world wide. a
>    $10 network card. it works perfect in windows.

My network card works fine. I didn't have to do anything to it.

>  - despite that i have latest distribution if i put in an audio cd it
>    doesn't play. in fact my
>

Do you mean directly? I can't remember if my distro does that.

>Of course as a real nerd i know how to get my soundblaster live to
>work. But then the problem is that all my MP3s are at NTFS disks.
>

I recently installed Win XP and there seems to be ZERO support for MP3s in Win
XP. I had to download another program to play them. I was a bit surprised, as I
thought that that was MS's intention, but I hadn't realised that they had
already done it.


>By default no kernel supports NTFS. Only a recompile of it helps then
>and i'm real sick of that, so right now that means no music.
>

I installed Linux after installing Windows and it set up access to my Windows
NTFS partition for me. I think it's read-only, but I've not tried it. But I
didn't have to compile a kernel for it.

>Then after it is installed, it doesn't easily work for my network.
>Only a few linux idiots might know how to get a network to work under
>linux, i sure do not and i do not have time to read 4 gigabyte of
>documents. I need to click on 'my network, add computer' to get it
>to work, if i need to type all kind of hocus pocus commands, then
>i am too confused to bring it to a good end.
>

As I said, SuSE like my network card and it works out of the box (I had to
select dhcp for networking - I think I had to do this for windows too).

>The result is that i never managed to get my linux computer working in
>a network. If i want to transfer files i go reboot to windows where it
>does work.
>

You should get a proper distribution. I use SuSE, which comes with 7 CDs (the
contents of which are also stored on one DVD). I tend to buy a new one every
two/three years - not because I need to, but because I like to support them. The
only things I download on a regular basis are security patches.

>there is however a common problem i have in both windows and linux.
>
>If i install some software (and i regurarly do that), such as things
>as msn under windows, or compilers under linux.
>
>In that case if i do not like what happened, the only solution to my
>problem is to reinstall the entire OS.
>

I don't understand this.

>chat managers have the bad habit to install itself in the kernel in
>windows. I am very sick of it. I install a chat manager very regurarly.
>
>Both oses suck ass here. Only hocus pocus commands work in linux, and i'm
>no magician, and in windows reinstalling the entire OS is faster anyway
>than trying to figure out what happened and in the end it is the only thing
>to do anyway.
>

Some Linux distros are more supportive than others.

>What i dislike most is that linux is needing things like / and /swap and
>such to work. I would prefer installing it at a directory in my NTFS
>harddisks.
>

My distro just suggested what sizes to use. To be precise, it noted that the
first 40Gig of my disk was for Windows, so it asked me if I wanted to
specifically decide what to do with the other 40 gig. I wasn't bothered, so it
came up with a scheme for me. I just had to click "OK".

>That is direct criticism to m$, it's NTFS protocol is not open i heard
>from a linux freak. If it was, then i could install both without having
>to fight either.
>
>Right now i lose loads of diskspace because i need both of them and you
>reserve for both oses a lot of diskspace of course in order to be sure
>you don't run out.
>
>Nevertheless, it is a joke to say that linux is more compatible, and about
>that matrox videocard i have some strong opinions as well, from software
>design viewpoint. It's a very stupid videocard.

Linux is not compatible with more stuff. I expect that's because HW
manufacturers tend to write drivers for Windows and not for other OSes. And
*that* is because more people use Windows. Still, it's generally possible to
find stuff that works. I'm a bit more careful these days before buying things
for my PC.

Andrew




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