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Subject: Re: Ruffian 0.76 is still playing incredible strong!

Author: pavel

Date: 04:57:36 09/19/02

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On September 19, 2002 at 07:47:46, Uri Blass wrote:

>On September 19, 2002 at 07:35:06, pavel wrote:
>
>>On September 19, 2002 at 06:01:57, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On September 19, 2002 at 05:59:07, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>On September 19, 2002 at 05:19:07, Jouni Uski wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 1: Ruffian 0.76    20.0 / 24
>>>>> 2: Gandalf 5.1     15.5 / 24
>>>>> 3: WBNimzo 2000b   15.0 / 24
>>>>> 4: Yace 0.99.56    14.5 / 24
>>>>> 5: Pharaon 2.62    13.5 / 25
>>>>> 6: Zarkov 4.5y     12.5 / 25
>>>>> 7: LambChop 10.88  12.0 / 24
>>>>> 8: Pepito 1.55     10.0 / 24
>>>>> 9: Quark 1.76      10.0 / 24
>>>>>10: Shredder 3.0    10.0 / 24
>>>>>11: Comet B.48-2    10.0 / 24
>>>>>12: Gromit 3.8.2     9.5 / 24
>>>>>13: Nejmet 3.06      8.5 / 24
>>>>>14: Patzer 3.61      8.0 / 24
>>>>>
>>>>>And still the only thing I know about program is the author: Per-Ola
>>>>>Valfridsson!
>>>>>Google search gives him 1774 rating - so his about mine level. But his program
>>>>>seems to play around 2800?!?!?!?!
>>>>>
>>>>>Jouni
>>>>
>>>>The rating of the author is totally unimportant.
>>>>
>>>>I have some questions:
>>>>
>>>>1)How much time did the author work on his program?
>>>>2)What did he read to help him to develop his program?
>>>>What are the free source codes that he looked at and how much of them did he
>>>>understand?
>>>>3)Did the author claimed that he is going to do the program freeware?
>>>>I read this claim but not from the author but only from other people.
>>>>
>>>>I doubt if to believe it and I will also have the same doubts if someone tells
>>>>me that one of Fritz,Tiger or Junior are going to be freeware espacially when
>>>>the teller is not the author of one of these programs.
>>>>
>>>>Uri
>>>
>>>Note that if Ruffian0.76 is going to be freeware only in 2010 then the claim
>>>that it is going to be freeware is misleading.
>>>
>>>My understanding was that the claim was that ruffian is going to be freeware in
>>>the near future and my interpertation is 2002.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>Ruffian will come with the next update of Arena with the installation and
>>without the installation, as a winboard engine.
>>Just like programs like AnMon and SoS comes with the Arena Installation package.
>>
>>The programmer himself said he will release it very soon, from what I
>>understand, he wants to port it under other OS too.
>
>Saying that he is going to release it is not saying that it is going to be
>freeware.

He will (most likely) release the next version for free, thus it will be
freeware.

>
>>
>>When will Ruffian come out?
>>The same time next update of Arena will.
>>
>>cheers,
>>pavs
>
>Maybe the next version of Arena is going to be commercial program and in this
>case all the programs that come only with Arena are going to be commercial.
>
>Uri

AFAIK Arena will never be commercial.
Just like Scid will never be commercial.

This is my understanding based on the few e-mail exchange I had with him.

Unless there is a Winboard Edition III, which is completely a differant story.

I have the impression you don't want Ruffian to be a freeware, if so, why?
;)

cheers,
pavs




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