Author: Jonas Cohonas
Date: 06:05:25 09/19/02
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On September 19, 2002 at 08:52:32, Aaron Tay wrote: >On September 19, 2002 at 08:16:49, Jonas Cohonas wrote: > >>On September 19, 2002 at 07:35:06, pavel wrote: >> >>>On September 19, 2002 at 06:01:57, Uri Blass wrote: >>> >>>>On September 19, 2002 at 05:59:07, Uri Blass wrote: >>>> >>>>>On September 19, 2002 at 05:19:07, Jouni Uski wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> 1: Ruffian 0.76 20.0 / 24 >>>>>> 2: Gandalf 5.1 15.5 / 24 >>>>>> 3: WBNimzo 2000b 15.0 / 24 >>>>>> 4: Yace 0.99.56 14.5 / 24 >>>>>> 5: Pharaon 2.62 13.5 / 25 >>>>>> 6: Zarkov 4.5y 12.5 / 25 >>>>>> 7: LambChop 10.88 12.0 / 24 >>>>>> 8: Pepito 1.55 10.0 / 24 >>>>>> 9: Quark 1.76 10.0 / 24 >>>>>>10: Shredder 3.0 10.0 / 24 >>>>>>11: Comet B.48-2 10.0 / 24 >>>>>>12: Gromit 3.8.2 9.5 / 24 >>>>>>13: Nejmet 3.06 8.5 / 24 >>>>>>14: Patzer 3.61 8.0 / 24 >>>>>> >>>>>>And still the only thing I know about program is the author: Per-Ola >>>>>>Valfridsson! >>>>>>Google search gives him 1774 rating - so his about mine level. But his program >>>>>>seems to play around 2800?!?!?!?! >>>>>> >>>>>>Jouni >>>>> >>>>>The rating of the author is totally unimportant. >>>>> >>>>>I have some questions: >>>>> >>>>>1)How much time did the author work on his program? >>>>>2)What did he read to help him to develop his program? >>>>>What are the free source codes that he looked at and how much of them did he >>>>>understand? >>>>>3)Did the author claimed that he is going to do the program freeware? >>>>>I read this claim but not from the author but only from other people. >>>>> >>>>>I doubt if to believe it and I will also have the same doubts if someone tells >>>>>me that one of Fritz,Tiger or Junior are going to be freeware espacially when >>>>>the teller is not the author of one of these programs. >>>>> >>>>>Uri >>>> >>>>Note that if Ruffian0.76 is going to be freeware only in 2010 then the claim >>>>that it is going to be freeware is misleading. >>>> >>>>My understanding was that the claim was that ruffian is going to be freeware in >>>>the near future and my interpertation is 2002. >>>> >>>>Uri >>> >>>Ruffian will come with the next update of Arena with the installation and >>>without the installation, as a winboard engine. >>>Just like programs like AnMon and SoS comes with the Arena Installation package. >>> >>>The programmer himself said he will release it very soon, from what I >>>understand, he wants to port it under other OS too. >>> >>>When will Ruffian come out? >>>The same time next update of Arena will. >>> >>>cheers, >>>pavs >> >>Snip from Frank Q's (excellent!) Arena site: >> >>Arena main files and partner engines: >>- UCI SOS 2 for Arena >>- UCI AnMon 5.21 >>- UCI Nejmet 3.06 >>- UCI Dragon 4.3 >>- UCI Ruffian x ... not clear so far (maybe a short time after Arena 0.90). >> >>Snipover. >> >>Personally i can't wait to see the newcomer (Ruffian) in action on my own comp >>and i am a bit surprised over the lack of optimism on Uri's part, maybe he has >>the "new engine itch" in his fingers too and can't wait ;) > >No the reverse actually.Uri will correct me if I'm wrong but I think Uri Blass >feels that when chess programs progress beyond a certain level (let's say Crafty >strenght) they should never be released as freeware (or should go commercial) >since such programs make the job of commercial engine writers more difficult >since such strong free alternatives exist. > >Of course he is writing from the point of view of an aspiring commercial chess >engine writer.. > >Quite a few threads about this here and in the Winboard forum...in the past.. > > >>Regards >>Jonas If you notice the ;) in my post you will see that i was not being too serious.. Regards Jonas
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