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Subject: Re: I will bet on the machine for this coming match , Correction !

Author: James T. Walker

Date: 15:18:30 09/19/02

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On September 19, 2002 at 17:35:25, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On September 19, 2002 at 15:31:42, Chris Carson wrote:
>
>>On September 19, 2002 at 15:06:54, Matthew Hull wrote:
>>
>>>On September 19, 2002 at 14:34:48, Chris Carson wrote:
>>>
>>>>On September 19, 2002 at 14:17:50, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On September 19, 2002 at 14:05:58, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On September 19, 2002 at 14:03:25, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If Hiarcs 8 can at least use the new AMD 2.6 Ghz or the upcoming 3.0 Ghz Intel
>>>>>>by January, it might have a chance to win.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://www.chessevents.nl/bareev_match.shtml
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Note that this is 40 moves in 2 hours.
>>>>>
>>>>>The computer is going to have its "hands" full with this GM.  Or any
>>>>>GM.  At that time control.
>>>>
>>>>At 40/2 on AMD 2.6 or PIV 3.0, the advantage is to the comp.
>>>
>>>Not really.  Not much more than on it's current hardware.  It is just an
>>>imcremental speedup.  At the depths it will be having to search, it will be
>>>_lucky_ to get even one extra ply of search, and that is doubtful.  The
>>>non-advantage of this speedup is more evident at slow time controls.
>>>
>>>If the match were at fast time controls, then the speedup would be a greater
>>>boon.  As it is, even if the effective speed were doubled, the program would be
>>>lucky to get an extra ply.
>>>
>>>>  The GM may win,
>>>>but Hiarcs 8.0 is the favorite in this match.
>>>>
>>>>This is great news, my best to both the GM and Hiarcs.
>>
>>Won't need an extra ply, just incremental speed up.  The programs are 2600+ on a
>>1Ghz PIII, the 3Ghz PIV machine should have a slight advantage.  This GM may
>>win, but he will have to be very well prepard and make no mistakes.  Most GM's
>>would lose this match, a top 10 GM vs Hiarcs 8 on a 2.5Ghz or faster is a very
>>close match, small speedups and sw improvement make the difference between
>>winning and loosing at this level/speed, in 18 months it will be even toughter,
>>but the GM will still have good chances.  It should be fun to watch.  :)
>
>
>2600+ at _what_ time control?  There is a big difference between game/60
>and 40/2hr.  At game/60 the GMs generally build up a significant advantage
>but then blow it in time trouble.  At 40/2 this is not going to happen very
>often...

I agree with Bob that this GM will have the advantage at 40/2.  I do not agree
with the "any GM" statement though.  This GM is rated 0ver 2700.  I don't
believe any programs are playing over 2700 right now.
Jim



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