Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 16:57:05 09/19/02
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On September 19, 2002 at 18:18:30, James T. Walker wrote: >On September 19, 2002 at 17:35:25, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On September 19, 2002 at 15:31:42, Chris Carson wrote: >> >>>On September 19, 2002 at 15:06:54, Matthew Hull wrote: >>> >>>>On September 19, 2002 at 14:34:48, Chris Carson wrote: >>>> >>>>>On September 19, 2002 at 14:17:50, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On September 19, 2002 at 14:05:58, Jorge Pichard wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On September 19, 2002 at 14:03:25, Jorge Pichard wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>If Hiarcs 8 can at least use the new AMD 2.6 Ghz or the upcoming 3.0 Ghz Intel >>>>>>>by January, it might have a chance to win. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>http://www.chessevents.nl/bareev_match.shtml >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Note that this is 40 moves in 2 hours. >>>>>> >>>>>>The computer is going to have its "hands" full with this GM. Or any >>>>>>GM. At that time control. >>>>> >>>>>At 40/2 on AMD 2.6 or PIV 3.0, the advantage is to the comp. >>>> >>>>Not really. Not much more than on it's current hardware. It is just an >>>>imcremental speedup. At the depths it will be having to search, it will be >>>>_lucky_ to get even one extra ply of search, and that is doubtful. The >>>>non-advantage of this speedup is more evident at slow time controls. >>>> >>>>If the match were at fast time controls, then the speedup would be a greater >>>>boon. As it is, even if the effective speed were doubled, the program would be >>>>lucky to get an extra ply. >>>> >>>>> The GM may win, >>>>>but Hiarcs 8.0 is the favorite in this match. >>>>> >>>>>This is great news, my best to both the GM and Hiarcs. >>> >>>Won't need an extra ply, just incremental speed up. The programs are 2600+ on a >>>1Ghz PIII, the 3Ghz PIV machine should have a slight advantage. This GM may >>>win, but he will have to be very well prepard and make no mistakes. Most GM's >>>would lose this match, a top 10 GM vs Hiarcs 8 on a 2.5Ghz or faster is a very >>>close match, small speedups and sw improvement make the difference between >>>winning and loosing at this level/speed, in 18 months it will be even toughter, >>>but the GM will still have good chances. It should be fun to watch. :) >> >> >>2600+ at _what_ time control? There is a big difference between game/60 >>and 40/2hr. At game/60 the GMs generally build up a significant advantage >>but then blow it in time trouble. At 40/2 this is not going to happen very >>often... > >I agree with Bob that this GM will have the advantage at 40/2. I do not agree >with the "any GM" statement though. This GM is rated 0ver 2700. I don't >believe any programs are playing over 2700 right now. >Jim Personally, I believe that _any_ GM is very dangerous at 40/2hr time controls. That speed is basically eliminating the "blitz-outs" that computers are famous for. I don't believe _all_ GMs will destroy the computers at 40/2 by any stretch. But I believe that _any_ GM will give _any_ computer plenty of fits... at that time control
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