Author: Rick Terry
Date: 19:00:42 09/19/02
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On September 19, 2002 at 17:35:25, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On September 19, 2002 at 15:31:42, Chris Carson wrote: > >>On September 19, 2002 at 15:06:54, Matthew Hull wrote: >> >>>On September 19, 2002 at 14:34:48, Chris Carson wrote: >>> >>>>On September 19, 2002 at 14:17:50, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>> >>>>>On September 19, 2002 at 14:05:58, Jorge Pichard wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On September 19, 2002 at 14:03:25, Jorge Pichard wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>If Hiarcs 8 can at least use the new AMD 2.6 Ghz or the upcoming 3.0 Ghz Intel >>>>>>by January, it might have a chance to win. >>>>>> >>>>>>http://www.chessevents.nl/bareev_match.shtml >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Note that this is 40 moves in 2 hours. >>>>> >>>>>The computer is going to have its "hands" full with this GM. Or any >>>>>GM. At that time control. >>>> >>>>At 40/2 on AMD 2.6 or PIV 3.0, the advantage is to the comp. >>> >>>Not really. Not much more than on it's current hardware. It is just an >>>imcremental speedup. At the depths it will be having to search, it will be >>>_lucky_ to get even one extra ply of search, and that is doubtful. The >>>non-advantage of this speedup is more evident at slow time controls. >>> >>>If the match were at fast time controls, then the speedup would be a greater >>>boon. As it is, even if the effective speed were doubled, the program would be >>>lucky to get an extra ply. >>> >>>> The GM may win, >>>>but Hiarcs 8.0 is the favorite in this match. >>>> >>>>This is great news, my best to both the GM and Hiarcs. >> >>Won't need an extra ply, just incremental speed up. The programs are 2600+ on a >>1Ghz PIII, the 3Ghz PIV machine should have a slight advantage. This GM may >>win, but he will have to be very well prepard and make no mistakes. Most GM's >>would lose this match, a top 10 GM vs Hiarcs 8 on a 2.5Ghz or faster is a very >>close match, small speedups and sw improvement make the difference between >>winning and loosing at this level/speed, in 18 months it will be even toughter, >>but the GM will still have good chances. It should be fun to watch. :) > > >2600+ at _what_ time control? There is a big difference between game/60 >and 40/2hr. At game/60 the GMs generally build up a significant advantage >but then blow it in time trouble. At 40/2 this is not going to happen very >often... With all due respect Mr. Hyaat you seem to have a Selective Memory. You act as if the matches Rebel vs van der wiel, rebel vs van wely, Junior at Dortmund and several other significant matches never occured. Where are the games in recent years where grandmasters have dominated the computers at 40/2??
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