Author: martin fierz
Date: 13:52:46 09/20/02
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On September 20, 2002 at 08:12:17, Chris Carson wrote: >On September 19, 2002 at 23:10:11, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On September 19, 2002 at 21:55:44, Rick Terry wrote: >> >>>On September 19, 2002 at 17:34:04, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>> >>>>On September 19, 2002 at 14:34:48, Chris Carson wrote: >>>> >>>>>On September 19, 2002 at 14:17:50, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On September 19, 2002 at 14:05:58, Jorge Pichard wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On September 19, 2002 at 14:03:25, Jorge Pichard wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>If Hiarcs 8 can at least use the new AMD 2.6 Ghz or the upcoming 3.0 Ghz Intel >>>>>>>by January, it might have a chance to win. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>http://www.chessevents.nl/bareev_match.shtml >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Note that this is 40 moves in 2 hours. >>>>>> >>>>>>The computer is going to have its "hands" full with this GM. Or any >>>>>>GM. At that time control. >>>>> >>>>>At 40/2 on AMD 2.6 or PIV 3.0, the advantage is to the comp. The GM may win, >>>>>but Hiarcs 8.0 is the favorite in this match. >>>>> >>>>>This is great news, my best to both the GM and Hiarcs. >>>> >>>> >>>>I totally disagree. The longer the time control, the better the human will >>>>do. Based on watching these games about 30 years now. IE at correspondence, >>>>a good IM will tear the chips out of most any program going... At blitz, the >>>>comp is nearly unbeatable... _nearly_ being the operative word of course. >>>> >>>>Hiarcs might be the favorite for you, but my instinct says "human". At game/30 >>>>the comp would definitely be favored. At game/60 it gets tougher. At a non- >>>>sudden-death time control, the human isn't going to get into time trouble and >>>>get blitzed... >>> >>> >>> Well Century 4 seemed to handle Van Wely quite easily, Hiarcs is much stronger >>>then Rebel on faster hardware. >> >> >>I don't think it "handled him quite easily"... >> >>but we will see before long,.... > >Feb, 2002 Rebel Century 4 on an AMD 1900+ plays an even match against GM Van >Wely (Fide 2697, top 10 GM at the time) at 40/2. Score for Rebel is +2, 0, >-2(no draws, all wins for both players were with the white pieces). > >It was an even match and on slower HW. I would agree the in this match the GM >and computer are about even (but I like the comps chances if on 3Ghz machine, >with programmer operating and latest s/w). it was an even result, but not an even match. there's a big difference, and as long as you don't look at the games, you will never see it... >I agree with one of your later posts that most GM's can play the comps close, >but the advantage is now with the comps against most GM's at 40/2. Perhaps 40/3 >would be better for the human GM's. A top 10 GM is about even on 2Ghz at 40/2, >this will be a good match, in 18 months it will need to be a Top 5 GM at 40/2.
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