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Subject: Re: Sometimes they go 'boom'

Author: Antonio Dieguez

Date: 16:50:33 09/20/02

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On September 20, 2002 at 18:20:56, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On September 20, 2002 at 18:18:07, John Merlino wrote:
>
>>On September 20, 2002 at 18:00:48, Tony Werten wrote:
>>
>>>On September 20, 2002 at 16:45:28, John Merlino wrote:
>>>
>>>>On September 20, 2002 at 16:37:38, Will Singleton wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On September 20, 2002 at 16:23:53, John Merlino wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>1:52	13/17	-1.54	11346643	1...Ba4 2.Bd1 Kd3 3.e5 Kd2 4.Bf3
>>>>>>>					Kc2 5.e6 Kxb2 6.Kg4 Kc1 7.Be4 b2
>>>>>>>					8.Kh4 Bc6 9.Bd3 b1=Q 10.Bxb1 Kxb1
>>>>>>>3:58	14/18	-1.56	23785267	1...Ba4 2.Bd1 Kd3 3.e5 Kd2 4.Bf3
>>>>>>>					Kc2 5.e6 Kxb2 6.Kg3 Kc1 7.Be4 b2
>>>>>>>					8.Kh4 Bc6 9.Bd3 b1=Q 10.Bxb1 Kxb1
>>>>>>>					11.Kg4
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Here's what my wonderful new P4-2.66 says:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>0:24	13/17	-1.56	9124305		1...Ba4 2.Bd1 Kd3 3.e5 Kd2 4.Bf3
>>>>>>					Kc2 5.Be4+ Kxb2 6.e6 Kc1 7.Kg4
>>>>>>					b2 8.Kh4 Bc6 9.Bd3 b1=Q 10.Bxb1
>>>>>>					Kxb1 11.Kg4
>>>>>>0:42	14/18	-1.56	16053836	1...Ba4 2.Bd1 Kd3 3.e5 Kd2 4.Bf3
>>>>>>					Kc2 5.e6 Kxb2 6.Kg3 Kc1 7.Be4 b2
>>>>>>					8.Kh4 Bc6 9.Bd3 b1=Q 10.Bxb1 Kxb1
>>>>>>					11.Kg4
>>>>>
>>>>>Why are the node counts different?
>>>>
>>>>Because I'm stupid.... Well, not exactly -- let's just say I confused myself.
>>>>
>>>>We are working on a French version of Chessmaster, so I re-installed the program
>>>>and the user that I logged in as was using the default of 4MB hash table size
>>>>for the PIII-600 version, instead of the 32MB I used for the P4-2.66 version.
>>>>Here is what the PIII-600 says with 32MB of hash (same node count, but
>>>>noticeably faster than the 2MB version):
>>>>
>>>
>>>I'm sorry, did you just say CM got faster from more hashtable ?
>>>
>>>I'm confused now.
>>>
>>>Tony
>>
>>Yes, I did. Why are you confused?
>
>Maybe he was thinking of NPS (which usually goes down) instead of time to
>solution, which normally speeds up with more hash.

Anyway, 4 MB is little, so one may think there is not enough eval cache on that,
and it would be a reason why 32mb went faster, but on the other side it is an
endgame position, and at least amyan evaluations there are very light so 4 mb is
faster in nps. It depends on the heavyness of the eval.



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