Author: Uri Blass
Date: 07:50:07 09/21/02
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On September 21, 2002 at 10:29:26, Eduard Nemeth wrote: >On September 21, 2002 at 10:09:30, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On September 21, 2002 at 09:23:09, Eduard Nemeth wrote: >> >>>On September 21, 2002 at 07:51:11, Chessfun wrote: >>> >>>>On September 21, 2002 at 07:43:51, allan johnson wrote: >>>> >>>>> Frank What about posting some games so we can get a look at Ruffian's style? >>>>> Does it attack fiercely and what of its defensive capabilities? >>>>> Al >>>> >>>>Here are a couple ;-) >>> >>>Hello Sarah! I have replay this games, here my opinion: >>> >>>Game 1: >>> >>>After last BOOK-Move, black (ruffian) was lost, sorry but it is true. >>>The win from Tiger in game one after last BOOK-Move easy! >> >>What was the last book move in that game? >> >>Tiger 15 AMD 1.4 - Ruffian 0.7.6 AMD 1.4 >>[D]1r1q1rk1/B3bpp1/pN1ppn1p/1b3P2/1p5P/4QB2/PPP3P1/2KR3R b - - 0 1 >> >>Analysis by Deep Fritz: >> >>19...Qd8xb6-- >> +- (1.47) Depth: 1/3 00:00:00 >>19...Qd8xb6-- 20.Ba7xb6 >> +- (5.12) Depth: 1/9 00:00:00 >>19...Rb8xb6! >> +- (3.31) Depth: 1/9 00:00:00 >>19...Rb8xb6! 20.Ba7xb6 >> ± (0.84) Depth: 1/9 00:00:00 >>19...Qd8-c7 20.Ba7xb8 Rf8xb8 21.Nb6-a8 >> = (0.00) Depth: 4/13 00:00:00 2kN >>19...Qd8-c7 20.Ba7xb8 Rf8xb8 21.Nb6-a8 >> = (0.00) Depth: 4/13 00:00:00 2kN >>19...Qd8-c7 20.Ba7xb8 Rf8xb8 21.Nb6-a8 >> = (0.00) Depth: 4/13 00:00:00 2kN >>19...Qd8-c7 20.Ba7xb8 Rf8xb8 21.Nb6-a8 >> = (0.00) Depth: 4/13 00:00:00 2kN >>19...Qd8-c7 20.Ba7xb8 Rf8xb8 21.Nb6-a8 >> = (0.00) Depth: 4/13 00:00:00 2kN >>19...Qd8-c7 20.Ba7xb8 Rf8xb8 21.Nb6-a8 Qc7-c4 >> = (-0.03) Depth: 5/17 00:00:00 26kN >>19...Qd8-c7 20.Ba7xb8 Rf8xb8 21.Nb6-a8 Qc7-c4 22.Rh1-e1 >> = (0.00) Depth: 6/17 00:00:00 40kN >>19...Nf6-g4! >> = (0.12) Depth: 6/24 00:00:00 123kN >>19...Nf6-g4! 20.Bf3xg4 Rb8-b7 21.f5xe6 Rb7xa7 22.Nb6-d5 >> = (0.09) Depth: 6/24 00:00:00 144kN >>19...Nf6-g4-- >> ² (0.41) Depth: 7/17 00:00:00 153kN >>19...Nf6-g4-- 20.Bf3xg4 Rb8-b7 21.f5xe6 Rb7xa7 22.Nb6-d7 Bb5xd7 23.Qe3xa7 >> ² (0.66) Depth: 7/22 00:00:00 260kN >>19...Qd8-c7! >> ² (0.62) Depth: 7/22 00:00:00 301kN >>19...Qd8-c7! 20.Ba7xb8 Rf8xb8 21.Nb6-a8 Qc7-c4 22.f5xe6 Qc4xa2 23.e6xf7+ Qa2xf7 >> = (0.00) Depth: 7/22 00:00:00 378kN >>19...Qd8-c7-- >> ² (0.31) Depth: 8/22 00:00:00 431kN >>19...Qd8-c7-- >> ² (0.31) Depth: 8/22 00:00:00 483kN >>19...Qd8-c7! >> = (0.00) Depth: 9/27 00:00:02 1508kN >>19...Qd8-c7! 20.Ba7xb8 Rf8xb8 21.Nb6-a8 Qc7-d8 22.Qe3-a7 >> = (-0.06) Depth: 9/27 00:00:02 1921kN >>19...Qd8-c7 20.Ba7xb8 Rf8xb8 21.Nb6-a8 Qc7-d8 22.Qe3-a7 Rb8-c8 >> = (-0.13) Depth: 10/27 00:00:05 3592kN >>19...Qd8-c7-- >> = (0.19) Depth: 11/31 00:00:07 5291kN >>19...Qd8-c7-- 20.Ba7xb8 Rf8xb8 21.Nb6-a8 Qc7-c4 22.f5xe6 Qc4xa2 23.e6xf7+ >> ² (0.37) Depth: 11/33 00:00:11 7925kN >>19...Qd8-c7 20.Ba7xb8 Rf8xb8 21.Nb6-a8 Qc7-d8 22.f5xe6 >> ² (0.56) Depth: 12/31 00:00:34 25240kN >>19...b4-b3! >> ² (0.53) Depth: 12/35 00:01:24 60714kN >>19...b4-b3! 20.a2xb3 Qd8-c7 21.Ba7xb8 Rf8xb8 >> ² (0.41) Depth: 12/42 00:03:51 161969kN >>19...b4-b3-- >> ± (0.72) Depth: 13/34 00:04:32 192420kN >>19...b4-b3-- 20.a2xb3 Qd8-c7 21.Ba7xb8 Rf8xb8 >> ± (0.84) Depth: 13/37 00:06:27 275717kN >>19...Qd8-c7! >> ± (0.81) Depth: 13/37 00:06:44 288709kN >>19...Qd8-c7! 20.Ba7xb8 Rf8xb8 21.Nb6-a8 Qc7-d8 22.f5xe6 >> ² (0.66) Depth: 13/37 00:07:11 307327kN >>19...Nf6-d7! >> ² (0.62) Depth: 13/37 00:11:41 501870kN >>19...Nf6-d7! 20.Nb6xd7 Bb5xd7 21.Ba7xb8 Qd8xb8 22.Qe3-e2 Qb8-c8 23.g2-g4 >> ² (0.47) Depth: 13/42 00:16:33 715244kN >> >>(Blass, Tel-aviv 21.09.2002) > > >In The Fritz 7 Book: black plays 19...Qc7 > >19...e5 I cannot find in an Book! After this move black is lost. Or not? > >Eduard The question is if Ruffian played 19...e5 because of bad book or because of bad engine. I have also one note about the analysis It seems that I gave Deep Fritz only 1 or 2 mbyte in the previous analysis to depth 13(I am not sure) Here is again Deep Fritz(P800)32 mbytes hash(more than twice faster) It seems that deep Fritz did not read the theory that says that doubling the hash tables is only 6-7% speed improvement because it is more than twice faster that is clearly more than 1.07^5 faster(another possible explanation is that deep Fritz was unlucky in this position). Tiger 15 AMD 1.4 - Ruffian 0.7.6 AMD 1.4 1r1q1rk1/B3bpp1/pN1ppn1p/1b3P2/1p5P/4QB2/PPP3P1/2KR3R b - - 0 1 Analysis by Deep Fritz: 19...Qd8-c7 20.Ba7xb8 Rf8xb8 = (0.25) Depth: 3/14 00:00:00 1kN 19...Qd8-c7 20.Ba7xb8 Rf8xb8 21.Nb6-a8 = (0.00) Depth: 4/13 00:00:00 2kN 19...Qd8-c7 20.Ba7xb8 Rf8xb8 21.Nb6-a8 = (0.00) Depth: 4/13 00:00:00 2kN 19...Qd8-c7 20.Ba7xb8 Rf8xb8 21.Nb6-a8 = (0.00) Depth: 4/13 00:00:00 2kN 19...Qd8-c7 20.Ba7xb8 Rf8xb8 21.Nb6-a8 = (0.00) Depth: 4/13 00:00:00 2kN 19...Qd8-c7 20.Ba7xb8 Rf8xb8 21.Nb6-a8 = (0.00) Depth: 4/13 00:00:00 2kN 19...Qd8-c7 20.Ba7xb8 Rf8xb8 21.Nb6-a8 = (0.00) Depth: 4/13 00:00:00 2kN 19...Qd8-c7 20.Ba7xb8 Rf8xb8 21.Nb6-a8 = (0.00) Depth: 4/13 00:00:00 2kN 19...Qd8-c7 20.Ba7xb8 Rf8xb8 21.Nb6-a8 = (0.00) Depth: 4/13 00:00:00 2kN 19...Qd8-c7 20.Ba7xb8 Rf8xb8 21.Nb6-a8 Qc7-c4 = (-0.03) Depth: 5/17 00:00:00 26kN 19...Qd8-c7 20.Ba7xb8 Rf8xb8 21.Nb6-a8 Qc7-c4 22.Rh1-e1 = (0.00) Depth: 6/17 00:00:00 39kN 19...Nf6-g4! = (0.12) Depth: 6/24 00:00:00 122kN 19...Nf6-g4! 20.Bf3xg4 Rb8-b7 21.f5xe6 Rb7xa7 22.Nb6-d5 = (0.09) Depth: 6/24 00:00:00 142kN 19...Nf6-g4-- ² (0.41) Depth: 7/17 00:00:00 153kN 19...Nf6-g4-- 20.Bf3xg4 Rb8-b7 21.f5xe6 Rb7xa7 22.Nb6-d7 Bb5xd7 23.Qe3xa7 ² (0.66) Depth: 7/22 00:00:00 255kN 19...Qd8-c7! ² (0.62) Depth: 7/22 00:00:00 294kN 19...Qd8-c7! 20.Ba7xb8 Rf8xb8 21.Nb6-a8 Qc7-c4 22.f5xe6 Qc4xa2 23.e6xf7+ = (0.00) Depth: 7/22 00:00:00 363kN 19...Qd8-c7-- ² (0.31) Depth: 8/22 00:00:00 406kN 19...Qd8-c7-- ² (0.31) Depth: 8/22 00:00:00 441kN 19...Qd8-c7! = (0.00) Depth: 9/25 00:00:01 1316kN 19...Qd8-c7! 20.Ba7xb8 Rf8xb8 21.Nb6-a8 Qc7-d8 22.Qe3-a7 = (-0.06) Depth: 9/25 00:00:02 1482kN 19...Qd8-c7 20.Ba7xb8 Rf8xb8 21.Nb6-a8 Qc7-d8 22.Qe3-a7 Rb8-c8 23.f5xe6 f7xe6 24.Rh1-e1 Bb5-c4 = (-0.13) Depth: 10/27 00:00:03 2570kN 19...Qd8-c7-- = (0.19) Depth: 11/27 00:00:05 3765kN 19...Qd8-c7-- 20.Ba7xb8 Rf8xb8 21.Nb6-a8 Qc7-c4 22.f5xe6 Qc4xa2 23.e6xf7+ Kg8xf7 24.Rh1-e1 Rb8-e8 25.Na8-c7 ² (0.37) Depth: 11/30 00:00:07 5095kN 19...Qd8-c7 20.Ba7xb8 Rf8xb8 21.Nb6-a8 Qc7-d8 22.f5xe6 Rb8xa8 23.Bf3xa8 Qd8xa8 24.e6xf7+ ² (0.56) Depth: 12/35 00:00:24 17474kN 19...b4-b3! ² (0.53) Depth: 12/35 00:00:59 41785kN 19...b4-b3! 20.a2xb3 Qd8-c7 21.Ba7xb8 Rf8xb8 22.Nb6-c4 d6-d5 23.Qe3-e5 Qc7-a7 24.Nc4-a3 ² (0.41) Depth: 12/40 00:01:49 76616kN 19...b4-b3-- ± (0.72) Depth: 13/34 00:02:21 96903kN 19...b4-b3-- 20.a2xb3 Qd8-c7 21.Ba7xb8 Rf8xb8 22.Nb6-a8 Qc7-d8 23.f5xe6 d6-d5 24.e6xf7+ Kg8-f8 ± (0.84) Depth: 13/36 00:02:56 125474kN 19...Qd8-c7! ± (0.81) Depth: 13/36 00:03:05 132365kN 19...Qd8-c7! 20.Ba7xb8 Rf8xb8 21.Nb6-a8 Qc7-d8 22.f5xe6 Rb8xa8 23.Bf3xa8 Qd8xa8 24.e6xf7+ Kg8xf7 ² (0.66) Depth: 13/36 00:03:16 140234kN 19...Nf6-d7! ² (0.62) Depth: 13/37 00:05:26 236922kN 19...Nf6-d7! 20.Nb6xd7 Bb5xd7 21.Ba7xb8 Qd8xb8 22.f5xe6 f7xe6 23.Bf3-d5 Qb8-c8 24.Qe3-e4 Rf8-f2 ² (0.44) Depth: 13/38 00:08:05 351779kN (Blass, Tel-aviv 21.09.2002) Uri
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