Author: John Merlino
Date: 11:09:18 09/21/02
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On September 21, 2002 at 04:32:52, Tony Werten wrote: >On September 20, 2002 at 18:18:07, John Merlino wrote: > >>On September 20, 2002 at 18:00:48, Tony Werten wrote: >> >>>On September 20, 2002 at 16:45:28, John Merlino wrote: >>> >>>>On September 20, 2002 at 16:37:38, Will Singleton wrote: >>>> >>>>>On September 20, 2002 at 16:23:53, John Merlino wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>>1:52 13/17 -1.54 11346643 1...Ba4 2.Bd1 Kd3 3.e5 Kd2 4.Bf3 >>>>>>> Kc2 5.e6 Kxb2 6.Kg4 Kc1 7.Be4 b2 >>>>>>> 8.Kh4 Bc6 9.Bd3 b1=Q 10.Bxb1 Kxb1 >>>>>>>3:58 14/18 -1.56 23785267 1...Ba4 2.Bd1 Kd3 3.e5 Kd2 4.Bf3 >>>>>>> Kc2 5.e6 Kxb2 6.Kg3 Kc1 7.Be4 b2 >>>>>>> 8.Kh4 Bc6 9.Bd3 b1=Q 10.Bxb1 Kxb1 >>>>>>> 11.Kg4 >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Here's what my wonderful new P4-2.66 says: >>>>>> >>>>>>0:24 13/17 -1.56 9124305 1...Ba4 2.Bd1 Kd3 3.e5 Kd2 4.Bf3 >>>>>> Kc2 5.Be4+ Kxb2 6.e6 Kc1 7.Kg4 >>>>>> b2 8.Kh4 Bc6 9.Bd3 b1=Q 10.Bxb1 >>>>>> Kxb1 11.Kg4 >>>>>>0:42 14/18 -1.56 16053836 1...Ba4 2.Bd1 Kd3 3.e5 Kd2 4.Bf3 >>>>>> Kc2 5.e6 Kxb2 6.Kg3 Kc1 7.Be4 b2 >>>>>> 8.Kh4 Bc6 9.Bd3 b1=Q 10.Bxb1 Kxb1 >>>>>> 11.Kg4 >>>>> >>>>>Why are the node counts different? >>>> >>>>Because I'm stupid.... Well, not exactly -- let's just say I confused myself. >>>> >>>>We are working on a French version of Chessmaster, so I re-installed the program >>>>and the user that I logged in as was using the default of 4MB hash table size >>>>for the PIII-600 version, instead of the 32MB I used for the P4-2.66 version. >>>>Here is what the PIII-600 says with 32MB of hash (same node count, but >>>>noticeably faster than the 2MB version): >>>> >>> >>>I'm sorry, did you just say CM got faster from more hashtable ? >>> >>>I'm confused now. >>> >>>Tony >> >>Yes, I did. Why are you confused? > >Johan always told me hashsize didn't matter/hardly had any impact or his engine. >At tournements, others used 256MB or something and the King only used 4 because >"it can't fill up much more than that during a search" > >Tony You must have misunderstood him, and I am guessing that he probably told you that a few years ago. Johan has used 16-32MB for the last several tournaments. It is true that The King needs a great deal less hash RAM than many other programs, but thanks to faster processors, 32MB is now a reasonable amount for tournament time controls on top-end CPUs (and analysis -- which is what I was doing). And, to be safe, and because it doesn't really hurt anything to have more hash than is necessary, I will be using 64MB in the CM vs GM match. jm
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