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Subject: Re: Program evaluation weakness for locked king position w/diagram

Author: Ron Murawski

Date: 11:44:20 09/21/02

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On September 21, 2002 at 12:35:05, Kurt Widmann wrote:

>What is your evaluation of this position?
>
>XABCDEFGHY
>8-+-+r+-+(
>7+-+-+k+p'
>6p+-+-+pzP&
>5+-+-+l+-%
>4-+-vL-+-zP$
>3zPp+-+-+-#
>2-zP-+-+-+"
>1mK-+R+-+-!
>xabcdefghy
>

[D] 4r3/5k1p/p5pP/5b2/3B3P/Pp6/1P6/K2R4 w - - 0 1

>The above position (white to move) occurred in an actual game WT vs. GM Nick
>Defirmian.
>As a human player , my evaluation based on whites king locked and poor pawn
>structure should be at least -400 points.  A mate in about 50 moves can be
>predicted with a forced rook exchange  and winning a pawn with zugzwang. These
>can be accomplished by marching the black king to the second and rook on the
>first and than get the king to h5, forcing whites bishop off g5 with zugzwang.
>Since the kings mobility strength is equal to at least one rook,the bishops of
>opposite colore rule does not apply here.
>My question to programmers is: “ Are programs being blindfolded by BOC and
>Kingsafety rules”?
>In my opinion,a locked king should result in a loss of -400 evaluation points
>until an escape is found.
>
>
>NDF - WT [B80]
>
>1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 a6 6.Be3 e6 7.f3 b5 8.Qd2 Nbd7
>9.0-0-0 Bb7 10.g4 Nb6 11.g5 Nfd7 12.Bd3 Rc8 13.Kb1 Ne5 14.Qe1 b4 15.Nce2 d5
>16.h4 Nxd3 17.cxd3 e5 18.Nf5 d4 19.Bg1 Na4 20.Rh2 g6 21.Qg3 Qc7 22.Rc1 Nc5
>23.Nh6 Bxh6 24.gxh6 0-0 25.f4 Qa5 26.fxe5 b3 27.a3 Qd2 28.Ka1 Qxd3 29.Qxd3 Nxd3
>30.Rf1 Bxe4 31.Nxd4 Bd5 32.Re2 Bc4 33.Rd1 Rfe8 34.Nf3 Nb4 35.Red2 Nc2+ 36.Kb1
>Be6 37.Nd4 Nxd4 38.Bxd4 Bf5+ 39.Ka1 Rcd8 40.Bf2 Rxd2 41.Rxd2 f6 42.exf6 Kf7
>43.Rd1 Kxf6 44.Bd4+ Kf7(above position)
>
>PS,all currently top rated programs are useless and or missleading for
>use of analysing such positions. Is it time to add or modify rules for
>BOC and Kingsafety?



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