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Subject: Re: CM9: something wrong with the GUI?

Author: Kurt Utzinger

Date: 11:57:18 09/21/02

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On September 21, 2002 at 14:47:39, John Merlino wrote:

>On September 21, 2002 at 14:37:04, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>
>>On September 21, 2002 at 14:20:52, John Merlino wrote:
>>
>>>On September 21, 2002 at 14:08:33, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>>>
>>>Are you certain that endgame databases were not used in the Fritz GUI in the
>>>second position? That is the only way that The King could "find the solution at
>>>once announcing mate".
>>>
>>>Otherwise, there is no reason to believe that The King would perform
>>>significantly better in the Fritz GUI than in the CM GUI, with the possible
>>>exception that the CM GUI might take a few more % (no more than 2 or 3 at most)
>>>of the CPU, depending on what windows you have open.
>>>
>>>I don't have Fritz, so I cannot make a comparison. However, if YOU have CM8000
>>>as well as CM9000, then go ahead and try The King v3.23 inside the CM8000 GUI
>>>and see if the results are better than in the CM9000 GUI. I would bet that they
>>>will not be.
>>>
>>>jm
>>
>>The endgame databases were of course used in both cases (CM9-GUI and Frit7-GUI)
>>but since CM9 cannot access the Nalimov tablebases under Fritz7-GUI I am indeed
>>wondering about such differences.
>>Kurt
>
>So, you have a complete set of EGDBs for Chessmaster? Well done!
>
>Well, either way, as has been posted here before, The King does not use the
>EGDBs deep in the search, nor does the Mentor Lines window use them.
>
>If you have a complete set of EGDBs, and the position is down to five pieces or
>less, you can get the results from the EGDBs by either opening the "Coach"
>window, or just letting the Chessmaster personality (or any personality that has
>been given access to the EGDBs) play the game out to the end.
>
>jm

No chance for Chessmaster 8000 under its own GUI to find 1.Kg2. And to your
question: I do not have the complete set of the EGDB's, only the ones delivered
with Chessmaster 9000. But it's nevertheless funny that under Fritz7-GUI the
engine (TheKing 3.23) finds the solution at once. I have carefully looked but no
hard disk lamp was flickering, not for a single moment, which is the case if I
use another engine like Hiarcs8 or Yace 0.99.56. This all is a mystery to me.
Kurt



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