Author: Joachim Rang
Date: 01:44:23 09/22/02
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On September 21, 2002 at 16:56:54, Uri Blass wrote: >On September 21, 2002 at 15:30:35, Joachim Rang wrote: > >>On September 21, 2002 at 13:39:17, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>On September 21, 2002 at 13:00:05, K. Burcham wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>>when I first learned that this statement is used and accepted often, I had to >>>>laugh. >>>>when anyone makes this statement, they are admitting that programs have enough >>>>problems that if a GM has the program before the match, that these problems can >>>>be discovered, and used during the match to play for the win. >>>>I find this amusing. >>> >>>The interesting match is when humans do not get a copy. >>>I could understand giving humans a copy if computers proved themselves to be >>>superior in normal conditions but computers still need to prove that they are >>>superior in normal conditions. >>> >>>I can add that the only way to beat humans who get a copy before the match is by >>>some non deterministic behaviour otherwise the human can learn the right games >>>before the match and the right games can be even games of the program against >>>itself. >>> >>>Uri >>> >>> >> >>this would mean, that one should be able to repeat "killergames" in an official >>match. Due to a big opening book and the right for the computerteam to choose >>the first move, this won't happen. > >No > >White may get the opponent out of book very quickly by means of 1.e4 2.Qe2 >so I suspect that it is enough to learn 20 games to win with white against >deterministic machine. > >White get almost equallity after 1.e4 2.Qe2 and it is possible to beat the >computer later because computers are not perfect. > >Of course it is possible to build a big book to make similiar ideas impossible >but I doubt if the Fritz that kramnik got has it. > >Uri 1.e4 2.Qe2 is already in the Fritz7-Book. I doubt that Kramnik will play such doubtfuly openings and I doubt that he has chances against Fritz with such openings. But we'll see in few weeks. Today its all speculation...
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